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riversedge

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Fri Sep 24, 2021, 09:57 PM Sep 2021

'Vigilante treatments': Anti-vaccine groups push people to leave ICUs [View all]

Source: nbc news



As the anti-vaccine movement escalates its rhetoric, doctors warn that they're dealing with the fallout: "They’re starting to target people, the messengers — nurses and doctors."
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Sept. 24, 2021, 8:08 AM CDT / Updated Sept. 24, 2021, 8:30 AM CDT
By Ben Collins

Anti-vaccine Facebook groups have a new message for their community members: Don’t go to the emergency room, and get your loved ones out of intensive care units.

Consumed by conspiracy theories claiming that doctors are preventing unvaccinated patients from receiving miracle cures or are even killing them on purpose, some people in anti-vaccine and pro-ivermectin Facebook groups are telling those with Covid-19 to stay away from hospitals and instead try increasingly dangerous at-home treatments, according to posts seen by NBC News over the past few weeks.

The messages represent an escalation in the mistrust of medical professionals in groups that have sprung up in recent months on social media platforms, which have tried to crack down on Covid misinformation. And it’s something that some doctors say they’re seeing manifest in their hospitals as they have filled up because of the most recent delta variant wave.
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“We were down to four Covid patients two months ago. In this surge, we’ve had 40 to 50 patients with Covid on four different ICU services, 97 percent of them unvaccinated,” said Wes Ely, an ICU doctor and professor of medicine at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. “We were making headway, and now we’re just losing really, really badly. There’s something that’s happening on the internet, and it’s dramatically increasing steam.”

Those concerns echo various local reports about growing threats and violence directed toward medical professionals. In Branson, Missouri, a medical center recently introduced panic buttons on employee badges because of a spike in assaults. Violence and threats against medical professionals have recently been reported in Massachusetts, Texas, Georgia and Idaho...........................................................

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/vigilante-treatments-anti-vaccine-groups-push-people-leave-icus-rcna2233



Difficult and sad to believe no can--? can they STOP this dangerous trend.





Here's the full story about "vigilante medicine" on ivermectin Facebook.

Antivaxxers are starting to wrap doctors and ICUs into their dark conspiracy theories, as they suffer at home with ad-hoc COVID treatments that don't work.

I hope you read it.



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Anti-vaccine and pro-ivermectin Facebook groups have been imploring followers to stay away from emergency rooms and hospitals.Nathan Howard / Getty Images






Ivermectin believers have become 'radicalized' and now advocate 'inhaling food-grade hydrogen peroxide': reporter

https://www.rawstory.com/ivermectin-2655171156/?cx_testId=6&cx_testVariant=cx_undefined&cx_artPos=5#cxrecs_s

September 24, 2021

Believers in treating COVID-19 with ivermectin have reportedly branched out in terms of their recommended treatments for the virus, which now include inhaling food-grade hydrogen peroxide.

NBC News reporter Ben Collins, who follows multiple pro-ivermectin and anti-vaccine Facebook groups, writes on Twitter that many of these groups have now become "radicalized" and are pushing for even more exotic remedies for COVID-19.

The problem these groups are encountering, writes Collins, is that their followers have quickly learned that ivermectin alone won't do the trick.

"So," writes Collins. "They developed a makeshift 'protocol.'"........................

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@oneunderscore__

Obviously, keep taking the ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, the ivermectin groups say.

But also gargle iodine. Buy a nebulizer and inhale food-grade hydrogen peroxide.

Anything but the vaccine.


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As they’re home self-medicating, antivaxxers are furious that friends and family won’t be administered ivermectin at the hospital.

So they’ve developed directions on how to get loved ones out of ICUs: put them in hospice care, then get them the miracle cures from YouTube.

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They’ve developed elaborate conspiracy theories about doctors and nurses in the process.

They believe ventilators and remdesivir are secretly drowning patients’ lungs, not COVID itself.

QAnon boards have begun calling hospitals to harass workers for not prescribing ivermectin.




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Ivermectin Facebook is a wildly dark scene, an inverted reality where medical consensus is an elaborate conspiracy to kill you and random people on Facebook have the secret cure.

As Dr. Aditi Nerurkar tells me, "They’re starting to target the messengers—nurses and doctors.”


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much easier to prohibit anti vaxxers in hospitals in the first place nt msongs Sep 2021 #1
More beds for people who need them. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #2
Exactly ... by all means, get them out of the ICU and back home, or keep them home in the 1st place! Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #4
A major problem may be solving itself alphafemale Sep 2021 #37
Yep. OldBaldy1701E Sep 2021 #39
To get ivermectrin, they wouldn't need a vet, just a farm supply store nt csziggy Sep 2021 #45
Too many are stupid. LiberalFighter Sep 2021 #3
Maybe by taking horse dewormer they're trying to be "stable" geniuses like their Dear Leader. LaMouffette Sep 2021 #5
I'd like to see if these messages can be traced to real people. Renew Deal Sep 2021 #6
Good question. reACTIONary Sep 2021 #12
Unfortunately, yes. paleotn Sep 2021 #20
These Inverted Medicine Groups have already decided bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #7
I'm going straight to hell rustysgurl Sep 2021 #8
Let them self-triage. Gore1FL Sep 2021 #14
Yes, please stay away from hospitals. SergeStorms Sep 2021 #9
As long as they live... reACTIONary Sep 2021 #13
Well... alphafemale Sep 2021 #10
: -) Never gets old. paleotn Sep 2021 #18
A true favorite line... FarPoint Sep 2021 #24
Just SMDH. As Dr. Martin Luther King Jr said, "The most dangerous thing in the world is iluvtennis Sep 2021 #11
I'm actually okay with them.. boyedav1969 Sep 2021 #15
It's A Democrat Plot DanieRains Sep 2021 #16
Other than the violence towards medical professionals..... paleotn Sep 2021 #17
Crazy stuff Demobrat Sep 2021 #19
Reality is a real wanker isn't it. paleotn Sep 2021 #21
Never seen a herd self-cull before. ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #22
I'm really ok with all of this... Mabel Sep 2021 #23
No problem. If you don't get the vaccine, absolutely do not go to a hospital if you get sick. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2021 #25
please proceed DBoon Sep 2021 #26
What's the downside? Ferrets are Cool Sep 2021 #27
Why are they even going to the hospital? liberalmuse Sep 2021 #28
The biggest self own in human history. Jon King Sep 2021 #29
I have said the same many times. Woodwizard Sep 2021 #32
Don't let the door hit you on way out. Reserve your cadaver cabinet before you leave. kairos12 Sep 2021 #30
The Zombie apocalypse is real relayerbob Sep 2021 #31
The CDC has been ready for the Zombie Apocalypse for a while! csziggy Sep 2021 #46
remember mitch ? monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #33
Sounds like another Jonestown cult Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 #34
Republicans have jumped the sanity shark Champp Sep 2021 #35
Neil Degrass Tyson has a facebook post explaining a terrible fact. truthisfreedom Sep 2021 #36
A silver lining in the covid cloud. olddad65 Sep 2021 #40
No vaccination, no hospitalization olddad65 Sep 2021 #38
Sounds good, but you just cant do it. oldsoftie Sep 2021 #49
Give Them What They Want Deep State Witch Sep 2021 #41
That pesky "first do no harm" thing, though. eggplant Sep 2021 #42
I can't help but think we have idiots like this because Farmer-Rick Sep 2021 #43
It's not just the US of A where this f*ckwittery is happening... sheepfarm Sep 2021 #44
I saw a good idea in The Nation magazine Sept 20-27 issue. raging moderate Sep 2021 #47
Starting to think Q is run by Chinese or Russians. oldsoftie Sep 2021 #48
Fuck 'em! BlueWavePsych Sep 2021 #50
While the though of TFG's supporters dropping dead at home is delightful ... SarcasticSatyr Sep 2021 #51
Good. Stay home and give the medical providers a break. yardwork Sep 2021 #52
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