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you could buy 10,000 2MW wind turbines for that amount, no additional fuel costs Blues Heron May 2022 #1
Wind turbines actually impact the environment in other ways as you still need metal cstanleytech May 2022 #4
i'm just saying thats an expensive way to turn a turbine Blues Heron May 2022 #5
Maybe I am wrong but wasn't there also an issue with birds being killed by turbines? cstanleytech May 2022 #6
Bird blenders the anti-winders call them Blues Heron May 2022 #9
Far fewer than die crashing into buildings. niyad May 2022 #17
Too many materials also come from China. For solar as well. oldsoftie May 2022 #8
the amount of steel and concrete that go into a nuke plant is a fraction mopinko May 2022 #25
10,000 wind turbines would destroy thousands of square miles and last 20 years. NNadir May 2022 #13
"The steel in them would require millions of tons of coal ... haul them away 20 years" speak easy May 2022 #16
The scientific literature is rich with estimates of the material costs... NNadir May 2022 #19
1.5+ million cars every month. speak easy May 2022 #22
Wasting your time wth NNADIR Miguelito Loveless May 2022 #26
OK. ty. speak easy May 2022 #28
Well, again, there are scientific references on the point, if one looks and if one recognizes scale. NNadir May 2022 #35
ty. I will read through the references carefully. speak easy May 2022 #36
'Capacity' wrt wind power is not the same as 24/7 output like you get from a NPP Hugh_Lebowski May 2022 #33
just wanted to see how many windmills you could buy with that kind of money Blues Heron May 2022 #34
There's no excuse for costs like this. We KNOW how to build modern nuclear plants oldsoftie May 2022 #2
Add on the price for maintenance (forever) and different contractors to run.. Tikki May 2022 #3
Don't get me wrong, I fully support nuclear power. Its the only way forward. oldsoftie May 2022 #7
I support high speed rail but not California's project ripcord May 2022 #23
Yep, thats another great example. nt oldsoftie May 2022 #31
Modular reactors are the future, not this thing NickB79 May 2022 #10
True. It also decentralizes the generation of power, making it less vulnerable to malefactors. PSPS May 2022 #12
Every factory having a nuclear reactor? XorXor May 2022 #14
No, reactors built in a factory NickB79 May 2022 #15
Ohh hahaha... I'm dumb. I see now what you're saying XorXor May 2022 #20
How many homes could be fully insulated for the same $30B? TheRickles May 2022 #11
France closed its last coal mine twenty years ago. hunter May 2022 #18
You must have an unconventional definition of failure. TheRickles May 2022 #21
These are all accounting tricks. hunter May 2022 #24
Excellent resource, thanks for the link, but.... TheRickles May 2022 #27
Looking at insulating homes is somewhat short-sighted. GregariousGroundhog May 2022 #30
Look at those other Scandinavian countries again. hunter May 2022 #37
Your argument assumes prices stay the same Miguelito Loveless May 2022 #29
Multiply your personal "solution" by 8 billion people. hunter May 2022 #32
Believe it or not, we agree on some main points here. TheRickles May 2022 #38
The glorious "free market" is going to kill billions of us if we don't quit fossil fuels. hunter May 2022 #40
I was being ironic in talking about the "wisdom" of the free market. TheRickles May 2022 #42
The waste problem is overblown. Compared to fossil fuel waste, the volume is manageable. hunter May 2022 #43
Interesting coincidence that you should mention how used nuclear fuel "just sits there". TheRickles May 2022 #50
The same people who freak out about tritium... hunter May 2022 #52
We don't provide power for 8 billion now Miguelito Loveless May 2022 #44
Are you yourself completely disconnected from the electric grid? hunter May 2022 #45
Yes, Miguelito Loveless May 2022 #51
Obviously you are someone of means with a huge environmental footprint. hunter May 2022 #53
I do not see nuclear as a "competitor" to renewables, nor vice versa. Miguelito Loveless May 2022 #54
Has Nuke Inc figured out what to with the waste? Kid Berwyn May 2022 #39
Hey, at least it's contained. hunter May 2022 #41
You know, there's got to be a better way to boil water. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #46
Natural gas is the fuel that will destroy what's left of the world as we know it. hunter May 2022 #47
I agree with you. We can't keep doing the same old same old. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #48
I oppose all solar development on previously undeveloped land. hunter May 2022 #49
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