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mahatmakanejeeves

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Mon Jun 27, 2022, 10:02 AM Jun 2022

Supreme Court Sides With Coach Over Prayers on 50-Yard Line [View all]

Source: New York Times

Supreme Court Sides With Coach Over Prayers on 50-Yard Line

Joseph Kennedy, a former high school football coach in Bremerton, Wash., had a constitutional right to pray on the field after his team’s games, the justices ruled.

By Adam Liptak
June 27, 2022, 10:04 a.m. ET

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that a high school football coach had a constitutional right to pray at the 50-yard line after his team’s games.

The vote was 6 to 3, with the court’s three liberal members in dissent.

The case pitted the rights of government workers to free speech and the free exercise of their faith against the Constitution’s prohibition of government endorsement of religion and the ability of public employers to regulate speech in the workplace. The decision was in tension with decades of Supreme Court precedents that forbade pressuring students to participate in religious activities.

The case concerned Joseph Kennedy, an assistant coach at a public high school in Bremerton, Wash., near Seattle. For eight years, Mr. Kennedy routinely offered prayers after games, with students often joining him. He also led and participated in prayers in the locker room, a practice he later abandoned and did not defend in the Supreme Court.

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Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/27/us/politics/supreme-court-coach-prayers.html



I don't subscribe to the NYT, so I can't give you a link that allows you free access to the article.

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SCOTUSblog:

We have the first opinion, and it is Kennedy v. Bremerton School District.

Sotomayor dissents, joined by Breyer and Kagan.
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Amy Howe

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It is by Justice Gorsuch, and the vote is 6-3.
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Amy Howe

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Here is the link: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-418_i425.pdf

The Court holds that both the free exercise and free speech clauses protect Kennedy's right to pray at midfield following high school football games.

https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/06/announcement-of-orders-and-opinions-for-monday-june-27/

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The Supreme Court's first decision of the day is Kennedy v. Bremerton. In a 6-3 opinion by Gorsuch, the court holds that public school officials have a constitutional right to pray publicly, and lead students in prayer, during school events. https://supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-418_i425.pdf

The Supreme Court formally overrules the Lemon test and the endorsement test, substantially cutting back the Establishment Clause's separation of church and state. This is another maximalist decision. https://supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-418_i425.pdf


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This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author eppur_se_muova Jun 2022 #76
Why do I have to be subject to someone praying......another dismantling of the 1st amendment... turbinetree Jun 2022 #2
How long before a coach has to promise to pray on the field before he can get his job? Walleye Jun 2022 #4
And kids have to promise to pray to get on the team, or field time? NullTuples Jun 2022 #45
Yes it's the kids I'm worried about are Jewish kids are gonna pray to Jesus to play football? Walleye Jun 2022 #53
It's completely after the game where I guess he stood and players could join jimfields33 Jun 2022 #23
I agree. shrike3 Jun 2022 #24
He could have prayed in private happy feet Jun 2022 #36
I'm okay with a Muslim coach doing this Roy Rolling Jun 2022 #39
This wasn't on his own time, he was still acting as coach, ie gov't employee NullTuples Jun 2022 #48
He was not acting as "coach" former9thward Jun 2022 #78
He was still wearing his coach clothes, on the coaching field, right after a game he'd coached. NullTuples Jun 2022 #81
No, this was after the game. former9thward Jun 2022 #84
Was he there for the game? Was he still dressed as coach? Was he on "his" field? NullTuples Jun 2022 #85
The school admitted in court all employees were on personal time after the game. former9thward Jun 2022 #89
No, I'm saying many Christians abuse their implied power NullTuples Jun 2022 #91
Did he still have his whistle on? Captain Zero Jun 2022 #95
I think that's a given. NullTuples Jun 2022 #96
Rights are rights. I will fight for rights of those being taken away. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #40
Except he won his case in the most corrupt court of my lifetime. That is not justice. NullTuples Jun 2022 #65
Doesn't change the reality. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #73
What about the rights of the non-Christian students/players to not have state imposed religion? NullTuples Jun 2022 #82
Agree Marthe48 Jun 2022 #92
But he was wearing his coach uniform so therefore was representing the school. Diamond_Dog Jun 2022 #60
Actually I'd be against it in the locker room jimfields33 Jun 2022 #64
Where did you see that the stadium was empty? sl8 Jun 2022 #72
Exactly happy feet Jun 2022 #90
Keep taking our rights, you guys, the backlash is going to be tremendous Walleye Jun 2022 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #16
How is it taking your rights if he wants to pray in an empty stadium? n/t OnlinePoker Jun 2022 #37
Who is paying for his stadium? Doesn't he have a church he can pray in? Walleye Jun 2022 #46
Check the photos; he was surrounded by all the players & the stands still had people in them. NullTuples Jun 2022 #51
As I understand it Diamond_Dog Jun 2022 #70
Actually we gave this person his rights. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #41
Can pray anywhere anytime he wants. But not on my dime Walleye Jun 2022 #47
Perfect. That's what he did. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #50
Teachers leading prayer in public schools is a bad thing Walleye Jun 2022 #55
True. Thankfully this isn't that. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #58
Do you think they're gonna be happy with just this? Walleye Jun 2022 #59
Only if lawsuits are submitted jimfields33 Jun 2022 #61
My words, the religious right will continue to push Walleye Jun 2022 #63
I'm sure they will. But let's deal with today. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #67
It all stems from the attitude that they have the right to push their religion on us Walleye Jun 2022 #68
The American Taliban... appmanga Jun 2022 #5
+100000 bdamomma Jun 2022 #30
NYT Breaking BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #6
Thanks. I kept hitting refresh for Robert Barnes. Nothing at the time. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2022 #8
Top of the morning BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #15
This week's schedule of announcements: mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2022 #17
Thanks!! BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #19
Can a kid be in trouble for multigraincracker Jun 2022 #7
Basically, the student athlete better pray or they likely won't play. But that's up to the coach. xocetaceans Jun 2022 #35
bless our team, Satan eShirl Jun 2022 #9
Time for bowing to Mecca... Moostache Jun 2022 #10
Any game in any sport must provide a Maypole for games played on May 1st. intheflow Jun 2022 #21
My thoughts as well PatSeg Jun 2022 #27
Biblical Jesus would not recognize Republican Jesus Moostache Jun 2022 #38
Yes, a terrible precedent PatSeg Jun 2022 #69
No surprise here. This ecclesiastical Court is removing the separation of church and state piece Lonestarblue Jun 2022 #11
Thank you PatSeg Jun 2022 #29
It boiled down to this.... The Grand Illuminist Jun 2022 #12
BUT.... Consider if a player chooses not to participate in the prayer. groundloop Jun 2022 #22
We'll get to that when it hits. The Grand Illuminist Jun 2022 #28
The prayer will be on the 50-yard line, not in the locker room. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2022 #57
That is exactly right and everybody knows it Walleye Jun 2022 #62
I'll be praying too but they won't like what I'm praying /nt bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #13
This surprises no one. And the EPA will be the next to go down in defeat to polluters. sinkingfeeling Jun 2022 #14
I can see it now...... pollution is speech groundloop Jun 2022 #18
more pollution bdamomma Jun 2022 #33
And the losing coach was burning a first-born child on a Satanic altar packman Jun 2022 #20
Jesus makes a compelling case for doing that someplace private, coach. Aristus Jun 2022 #25
This period will become known as "The Catholic Court." James48 Jun 2022 #26
Did Gorsuch not read his Bible? LoisB Jun 2022 #31
Oh, just imagine if the Court had ruled against the coach and cited THAT as justification Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #93
It would have been a very interesting "discussion". LoisB Jun 2022 #97
Fuck you asshole coach and justices too. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #32
i wonder how they will react when players from non-Christian religions begin to do the same samsingh Jun 2022 #34
The field is huge. Why not? jimfields33 Jun 2022 #43
weren't the same republicans going nuts when people were kneeling for Black Lives Matter? samsingh Jun 2022 #49
Yep. We supported it. We should be supporting this too. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #56
Foottball fields are on school grounds packman Jun 2022 #66
I'll agree with that. What he doesn't have is the right to force the team to pray with him. malthaussen Jun 2022 #42
The continued slide to theocracy. AllyCat Jun 2022 #44
Before I can form an opinion, I need one question answered Polybius Jun 2022 #52
That depends on who you ask. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2022 #54
As Don Henley sings in, "Frail Grasp of the Big Picture," Bayard Jun 2022 #71
Why do I disagree? bluestarone Jun 2022 #74
Who needs these public displays of piety? It's rude. Duncan Grant Jun 2022 #75
Matthew 6:5-7 Print up a bunch of these signs for his next game. eppur_se_muova Jun 2022 #77
Oh, no. This doesn't violate the free exercise and establishment clauses. rsdsharp Jun 2022 #79
Ok, all you legal eagles in DU. WILL THIS OPEN THE DOOR TO PRAYING IN CLASSROOMS? usaf-vet Jun 2022 #80
I Look Forward Deep State Witch Jun 2022 #83
Gorsuch lies pfitz59 Jun 2022 #86
One thing for certain Roy Rolling Jun 2022 #87
The best way to counter this is to become a satanist and insist on equal treatment. Martin68 Jun 2022 #88
My observation: If your coach spends a lot of time praying, his coaching may be shit Captain Zero Jun 2022 #94
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