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Tue Feb 6, 2024, 11:11 AM Feb 2024

Trump does not have presidential immunity in January 6 case, federal appeals court rules [View all]

Source: CNN


Donald Trump is not immune from prosecution for alleged crimes he committed during his presidency to reverse the 2020 election results, a federal appeals court said Tuesday.

The ruling is a major blow to Trump’s key defense thus far in the federal election subversion case brought against him by special counsel Jack Smith. The former president had argued that the conduct Smith charged him over was part of his official duties as president and therefore shield him from criminal liability.

“For the purpose of this criminal case, former President Trump has become citizen Trump, with all of the defenses of any other criminal defendant. But any executive immunity that may have protected him while he served as President no longer protects him against this prosecution,” the court wrote.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/politics/trump-immunity-court-of-appeals?cid=ios_app

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Beat by a second BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #1
Off to SCOTUS. sinkingfeeling Feb 2024 #3
It's *possible* that to slow it down to the max - he goes to "en banc" first BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #6
At this point he has no "right" to appeal... brooklynite Feb 2024 #11
His pseudo lawyers do anything they want BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #16
You miss the point... brooklynite Feb 2024 #18
Yes! This ruling gives cover to the SC to ignore the appeal by turning down his lawyer's plea. We win!!!! machoneman Feb 2024 #72
I'll Feel Relief RobinA Feb 2024 #84
Did you just read what you wrote? BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #117
SCOTUS will take the case. 2 reasons Bobstandard Feb 2024 #129
Alternately - BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #135
Good point Bobstandard Feb 2024 #168
Did you read what I wrote previously? brooklynite Feb 2024 #144
2020 is NOT 2024 BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #146
We're not talking about the 14th Amendment case...I've never assumed that would be viable. brooklynite Feb 2024 #151
Hopefully the pseudo SCOTUS doesn't want to hear it AdamGG Feb 2024 #139
Did you miss the headlines? BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #153
Whether Dump is immune from prosecution and whether states can remove him from the ballot AdamGG Feb 2024 #164
Yes I know BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #165
Yes, he can't appeal it! SWBTATTReg Feb 2024 #141
My profound hope is that he will not be granted either an en banc or a Supreme Court review. ShazzieB Feb 2024 #156
I think that is incorrect. Novara Feb 2024 #69
Chutkan could "proceed" but the issue would still be unresolved BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #78
And any sensible person, with these ongoing TexasBushwhacker Feb 2024 #119
The operative words being BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #121
Of course, but I'm hoping some independent voters will be swayed TexasBushwhacker Feb 2024 #122
I think the fact that Biden got 7 million more popular votes in 2020 BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #127
We certainly 'got a change', dint we? sprinkleeninow Feb 2024 #134
So does he demand escalation to a supervisor (Supreme Court)... forgotmylogin Feb 2024 #145
Where the Six Tarantulas will do his bidding. AllyCat Feb 2024 #59
Two out of those 6 didn't do his bidding two weeks ago Polybius Feb 2024 #123
I think you're probably right about this. ShazzieB Feb 2024 #157
What are the chances the Supreme Court decides not to hear it chowmama Feb 2024 #169
News worth waking up to. Lunatic raving...3.2.1.. Scalded Nun Feb 2024 #2
WOMP WOMP orleans Feb 2024 #25
Is it time to buy shares in Heinz? usaf-vet Feb 2024 #57
Excellent. MLAA Feb 2024 #4
+1... myohmy2 Feb 2024 #27
My money is on him appealing en banc first. Wednesdays Feb 2024 #51
Good point, thanks! MLAA Feb 2024 #61
I don't see this as NJCher Feb 2024 #87
I believe these are his options. onenote Feb 2024 #103
That won't help him much because of the SECOND ruling today Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2024 #154
Somewhere a pantload is filling up rapidly Blue Owl Feb 2024 #5
LOL! llmart Feb 2024 #7
The Supreme Court has rejected every one of Trump's Cert requests...no reason to expect a change now brooklynite Feb 2024 #22
Doesn't mean he won't try. llmart Feb 2024 #28
Ha ha. twodogsbarking Feb 2024 #8
HAHA FalloutShelter Feb 2024 #35
AWESOME! bluestarone Feb 2024 #9
Wrong Judge. Cannon is the judge in the classified documents/obstruction of justice case. Those occurred in Florida 24601 Feb 2024 #33
She was stalling because of this. bluestarone Feb 2024 #37
So many trials... Blue Idaho Feb 2024 #166
I am sure he already has two more appeals ready to go here. LonePirate Feb 2024 #10
The court's opinion seems to be written to facilitate denial of cert by higher courts Fiendish Thingy Feb 2024 #17
Thanks for this explanation ...it really makes my day! FakeNoose Feb 2024 #132
Very appropriate gif - love it! ShazzieB Feb 2024 #158
In a separate order issued today, the court said that a request for an en banc hearing would NOT delay the trial. euphorb Feb 2024 #41
Good to know. Thanks! nt Wednesdays Feb 2024 #58
"...until after the election." JohnnyRingo Feb 2024 #43
A second insurrection won't go the way the first did. Wednesdays Feb 2024 #64
We can hope. JohnnyRingo Feb 2024 #70
not to mention NJCher Feb 2024 #93
I wonder how many Republican members of Congress will be guided by Capitol police somewhere else LiberalFighter Feb 2024 #108
That wouldn't be so terrible Conjuay Feb 2024 #77
It's a guarantee he'll pull some shit. My hope is this: this time our guy is in charge, Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #94
You are correct that if I see it coming..... JohnnyRingo Feb 2024 #148
The appeal appears to be written to set the stage for denial of cert en banc and by SCOTUS. Fiendish Thingy Feb 2024 #12
Which means we could have a conviction in July/August bearsfootball516 Feb 2024 #13
Which means Haley would be nuts to drop out no matter what happens in SC n/t Shrek Feb 2024 #19
That's why she's still in. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #36
OK, if he was elected after being convicted of crimes, couldn't we just impeach him right away? Walleye Feb 2024 #44
Sure, but you may not get enough Republican senators on board for removal. bearsfootball516 Feb 2024 #49
Sure, we could impeach him, assuming we have the House. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #53
Right and... Unwind Your Mind Feb 2024 #67
President Comrade Carlson? LudwigPastorius Feb 2024 #79
Ack I didn't even think of that Unwind Your Mind Feb 2024 #109
Lately, Tim Scott has moved up Polybius Feb 2024 #128
What about Elise Stefanik? ShazzieB Feb 2024 #159
Let's say he's convicted in July but people vote for him anyway in a legit election Polybius Feb 2024 #126
If he wins a legit election and the people knew he was a criminal... Polybius Feb 2024 #125
Good point Walleye Feb 2024 #143
A "conviction in July/August" is too late though Polybius Feb 2024 #124
If not July/August, certainly by fall Fiendish Thingy Feb 2024 #21
Absolutely. bearsfootball516 Feb 2024 #30
Or if he's disqualified to run for office... Justice matters. Feb 2024 #113
Trump will have the nomination by April Polybius Feb 2024 #130
Because the convention is in July Fiendish Thingy Feb 2024 #137
True, but why should Haley get it? Polybius Feb 2024 #150
I think that is why the ruling took longer than expected. They wanted it as ironclad as possible. nt. LiberalFighter Feb 2024 #110
Why that long a wait? slightlv Feb 2024 #136
She has already scheduled another trial for April Fiendish Thingy Feb 2024 #138
How'd it go? 2 outta 3 or 3 outta 3? jaxexpat Feb 2024 #14
Unanimous according to CNN n/t Shrek Feb 2024 #23
Nice. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #96
Next stop is a request for en banc hearing by the full appeals court, then SCOTUS Fiendish Thingy Feb 2024 #24
That's helpful in a "I like democracy" kind of way. jaxexpat Feb 2024 #50
The article says it was unanimous. ShazzieB Feb 2024 #160
This is a per curiam opinion LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2024 #15
Bi-partisan ruling Shrek Feb 2024 #29
YASSS!!! Been checking everyday for 3 weeks this ruling. iluvtennis Feb 2024 #20
I trust that the people who were complaining that the Court was "slow-walking" this have changed their opinions? brooklynite Feb 2024 #26
I wouldn't count on it. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #47
I know, right? ShazzieB Feb 2024 #161
The one doesn't obviate the other Bobstandard Feb 2024 #95
Thank god! I was getting very, very nervous about how they would rule... SKKY Feb 2024 #31
One step closer to the slammer. Turbineguy Feb 2024 #32
Trump is going to jail Tom of Temecula Feb 2024 #34
Hot damn! Wild blueberry Feb 2024 #38
Unanimity in the decision AND the opinion Raven123 Feb 2024 #39
The Appeals Court has sent it immediately to SCOTUS and skipped any en banc request. If SCOTUS ancianita Feb 2024 #48
Thank you. Hadn't heard that. Good plan on their part Raven123 Feb 2024 #52
Wasn't this what Jack Smith wanted in the 1st place ? dweller Feb 2024 #80
I believe so. BUT it's the DC Circuit ancianita Feb 2024 #83
YAY FINALLY! Now we can be sure their unanimity writeup will convince SCOTUS. ancianita Feb 2024 #40
There's no vaccine for insurrection nt Xipe Totec Feb 2024 #42
There could be, however, an injection for insurrection, though that might be a bit extreme. TwilightZone Feb 2024 #56
I'm against the death penalty, too, but I always appreciate good black humor! ShazzieB Feb 2024 #162
Great news! highplainsdem Feb 2024 #45
It's a good day. Mz Pip Feb 2024 #46
Did the ruling addess the stay? getagrip_already Feb 2024 #54
Yes LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2024 #99
Pleasant To Learn, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2024 #55
He's going to go bankrupt PennRalphie Feb 2024 #60
Only one thing to say: calimary Feb 2024 #62
Nice to hear good news! WestMichRad Feb 2024 #63
Good one! StarryNite Feb 2024 #66
It alludes to "any" immunity while in office. Guess that part'll have to be addressed later. live love laugh Feb 2024 #65
I enjoyed the fact that the court cited the example of President Clinton Vogon_Glory Feb 2024 #68
Now get this back moniss Feb 2024 #71
About time, thank you appeals court. republianmushroom Feb 2024 #73
Just throwing this out there... johnnyfins Feb 2024 #74
That Works For Me RobinA Feb 2024 #92
Does Smith have the authority to make a deal like that? Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #98
IMO not good enough. He needs to be convicted. LiberalFighter Feb 2024 #112
turned to fox to get their take on it and... samnsara Feb 2024 #75
Those Central Americans RobinA Feb 2024 #97
What I saw was the video of a guy in a jeep with a "white supremacy edition" sticker on it attacking people. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #102
Wonder if they hid the ketchup? liberal N proud Feb 2024 #76
i don't know why they took so long. barbtries Feb 2024 #81
Best news I have heard all year. Hope the SC finds the same. appleannie1 Feb 2024 #82
Or simply declines to hear it. ShazzieB Feb 2024 #163
He also doesn't have a heart. Or a brain. n/t SpankMe Feb 2024 #85
TFG is stalling RANDYWILDMAN Feb 2024 #86
SO UNFAIR!!!! SergeStorms Feb 2024 #88
BOOM! YES!!! Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #89
I hear Dubai is wonderful this time of year. Efilroft Sul Feb 2024 #90
Has he whined about this yet? sakabatou Feb 2024 #91
Read the appeals court ruling on Trump's immunity claim in Jan. 6 trial mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2024 #100
I dont understand the withhold the issuance slightlv Feb 2024 #101
I was driving home and heard the news on CBS radio news Marthe48 Feb 2024 #104
Future cell occupier just playing long stall game, based on his shitty defense in courts so far? Brainfodder Feb 2024 #105
Hallelujah n/t imavoter Feb 2024 #106
There is only one Traildogbob Feb 2024 #107
Hopefully, he is melting down to nothing. pandr32 Feb 2024 #111
this is all good. Bird Lady Feb 2024 #114
Gonna be tough for anyone to paint this as anything other than a really bad turn of events for trump Torchlight Feb 2024 #115
YES!!!! elleng Feb 2024 #116
SCOTUS Prediction: No Stay No Certiorari MayReasonRule Feb 2024 #118
Please... from your lips. onecaliberal Feb 2024 #147
I just read the entire thing. appleannie1 Feb 2024 #120
this will go to Supreme Court - but hopefully they will decline to hear it samsingh Feb 2024 #131
kick samsingh Feb 2024 #133
One interesting word buried in the text... SomewhereInTheMiddle Feb 2024 #140
Of course you know next stop for Trumpty Dumpty is SCOTUS. ificandream Feb 2024 #142
#1 riversedge Feb 2024 #155
Direct link to the opinion. ificandream Feb 2024 #149
This is why MorbidButterflyTat Feb 2024 #152
Citizen Trump SomedayKindaLove Feb 2024 #167
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