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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
11. and quarks were a matter of quirky conjecture just a few years ago ...
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:58 PM
Dec 2012

psychiatry and psychology are as imperfect as every other science known to man ...

Oh snap! Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #1
PREDICTION: "Autism isn’t a separate mental condition, it is a medical disorder. Big difference." proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #49
Check it out. Wouldn't you like to know whether his input ended after this came to light? proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #2
LOL, keep on pushing the AoA woo! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #4
I'm sorry, the guy's indictment for fraud isn't woo, nor his involvement in redefining autism. nt proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #6
Treating this guy's wrong-doing as evidence for anti-vax BS is a red herring... Odin2005 Dec 2012 #9
A more measured approach might be advisable. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #23
Meanwhile, largely thanks to antivac woo, pertussis is on the rise and killing people. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #55
Off-topic, sorry, but that's inaccurate according to JAMA. Please research it. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #69
If you had any scientific evidence of a link, you wouldn't have to rely on character assassination. jeff47 Dec 2012 #82
You might've missed these updates. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #96
Reading. You may want to try it jeff47 Dec 2012 #98
Three are leading establishment autism researchers. Why don't you look for their publications? proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #99
Again, you fail to notice the problem with these researchers jeff47 Dec 2012 #100
Obfuscate all you want, but it's clear answers are forthcoming. Start with confusing 2 with 21. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #103
Not a study. It's a letter. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2012 #108
On the contrary, AoA writers are ALL adamant no study has ever been done comparing the two groups. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #104
And I provided a link showing such studies have been done. jeff47 Dec 2012 #109
"WE HAVE NOT STUDIED VACCINATED VS UNVACCINATED," CDC's Dr. Coleen A. Boyle @ minute 2:34. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #106
Because CDC is the only people in the world that does medical research. jeff47 Dec 2012 #107
Nope. I'm providing analyses by experts for the layperson, and it's absurd to require otherwise. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #110
So you don't understand how science works? jeff47 Dec 2012 #111
Nonsense and about those 'criminal fraud charges,' just give it a little time. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #112
I think I'll just say 0 studies over and over again jeff47 Dec 2012 #113
'Trifles make perfection, but perfection is no trifle.' -Michelangelo. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #114
Asperger's is being merged with Autistic Disorder. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #3
I need to see the new guidelines... jmowreader Dec 2012 #7
I wish that you guys would hand out a program or something Orrex Dec 2012 #15
Too late. ;) alfredo Dec 2012 #16
Joke's on you! Orrex Dec 2012 #20
LMAO! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #19
Yes, it's a spectrum disorder sakabatou Dec 2012 #24
Are you ok with that? ismnotwasm Dec 2012 #67
It actually makes it easier to explain TrogL Dec 2012 #91
That AP headline is designed to enrage blogslut Dec 2012 #75
Little or none. KamaAina Dec 2012 #93
The whole of the mental health profession is one giant FRAUD. n/t DeSwiss Dec 2012 #5
LOL, here come the "Psychiatry is EVIL" brigage. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #8
Yup DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #14
So true Odin2005- and some of the comments are SO inappropriate and insensitive. BeHereNow Dec 2012 #32
psychiatry and psychology are a very inexact studies - they really cannot be called science Douglas Carpenter Dec 2012 #10
and quarks were a matter of quirky conjecture just a few years ago ... MindMover Dec 2012 #11
I'd have to disagree, quarks were found through the scientific process NutmegYankee Dec 2012 #42
Exactly ... hypothesized, tested, repeat ... MindMover Dec 2012 #56
As an engineer, I disagreed that science was imperfect. NutmegYankee Dec 2012 #71
I use the word imperfect because science is never completed .... MindMover Dec 2012 #74
So was medicine less than two hundred years ago uriel1972 Dec 2012 #13
That is if they get your diagnosis correct sakabatou Dec 2012 #27
Oh really? sakabatou Dec 2012 #25
You insult MANY DUers with that statement DeSwiss. BeHereNow Dec 2012 #31
.... DeSwiss Dec 2012 #38
1973? BeHereNow Dec 2012 #39
New Agers would agent46 Dec 2012 #101
Are you a Scientologist, DeSwiss? slackmaster Dec 2012 #41
Probably, from the looks of it. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #53
Except of course when it saves your life. Nt. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #57
What did they tell you was wrong with YOU? n/t Ian David Dec 2012 #65
Hi, Tom Cruise! Freddie Dec 2012 #68
Hail Xenu! name not needed Dec 2012 #102
Someone saw the South Park episode. McCamy Taylor Dec 2012 #12
The one about the "Brown Note." alfredo Dec 2012 #17
How is this late breaking news. This change has been known to the mental health profession for years olddad56 Dec 2012 #18
Talk about a branch of idiocy based on non-science. The scientific method is NEVER used LittlestStar Dec 2012 #21
"Any single person could walk into a shrinks office and get diagnosed with anything..." greiner3 Dec 2012 #22
Yeah, my mental state and mannerisms are a total joke sakabatou Dec 2012 #26
That's been tested tama Dec 2012 #28
post a link or it never happened. mopinko Dec 2012 #50
Thanks for checking in on this thread Mopinko- BeHereNow Dec 2012 #52
What really disturbs me is the crowd that thinks kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #59
Found it tama Dec 2012 #77
(Off topic) Seen this? Rare, but really ugly relatively recent allegations supporting tama's post. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #97
It did happen, but in the early 70s. LeftishBrit Dec 2012 #83
On the contrary tama Dec 2012 #84
Obviously your life has not been touched by mental illness. BeHereNow Dec 2012 #29
Scientific method never used? Tell that to B.F. Skinner or Roger Sperry (Nobel laureate) NoodleyAppendage Dec 2012 #33
+1000. BeHereNow Dec 2012 #34
Two members of my immediate family are psychologists, and MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #36
The real problem is that doctors who are NOT QUALIFIED to make mental health diagnoses... slackmaster Dec 2012 #43
Same is true for any doctor. If I insist to my GP I have pain in my back, he'll give me meds Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #46
yes, shrinks believe their patients. or at least give them the benefit mopinko Dec 2012 #51
EXACTLY MOPINKO! BeHereNow Dec 2012 #58
You probably would think my schizophrenic mother was just kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #54
Sorry about your mother Kestrel- I did not know. BeHereNow Dec 2012 #62
I have no idea when, but yeah, we have been invaded by kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #64
I think it started when anti-vaxers weren't PPR'd without discussion Occulus Dec 2012 #70
You're preaching to the converted here, lol. I'm HUGE on public health. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #73
Your position is extremely anti-scientific tama Dec 2012 #78
No, anti-vaxers deserve summary dismissal based on previously established lack of scientific merit Occulus Dec 2012 #80
Does that mean I'm cured? nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #30
Yes it does. slackmaster Dec 2012 #44
Dare I say... MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #35
It just demonstrates that mental illness underthematrix Dec 2012 #37
It may seem like a social construction to you, but if you ever have the misfortune of being in... slackmaster Dec 2012 #45
Neither Race nor Gender Constitute an Intrinsic Threat to Survival of the Individual Demeter Dec 2012 #48
Is there any question tama Dec 2012 #79
FAIL. I have decades of experience with a schizophrenic mother kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #61
Is there a diagnosis in there for "Psychologist"? bucolic_frolic Dec 2012 #40
Nice broad brush Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #47
I agree, I'm employing TM Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #87
There are valid criticisms of the DSM and its use. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #60
so true. it is this medical model that prevents people from going into this career field... olddad56 Dec 2012 #66
Temper tantrums. Two words. Disruptive mood dysregulation disorder. Four words. MADem Dec 2012 #63
Self-diagnosed aspergers is one of the most irritating things on the net Politicub Dec 2012 #72
I was diagnosed by a professional when I was 15. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #76
The ignorance of mental illness right here on DU is sad. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #81
As the parent of an Asperger's child, here's what concerns me the most: AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #85
I doubt very much that you will lose any benefits because of your son's condition being re-named slackmaster Dec 2012 #89
I hope so, too. AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #95
holy moly. mopinko Dec 2012 #86
It's the same people who get hysterical about "Evil Big Pharma". Odin2005 Dec 2012 #88
I'd never heard of Aspergers before seeing it mentioned on DU IDemo Dec 2012 #90
Don't go self-diagnosing yourself TrogL Dec 2012 #92
Yeah, I realize an online quiz is no substitute IDemo Dec 2012 #94
It's a trade-off JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #105
Related informative read. proverbialwisdom Dec 2012 #115
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