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TexasBushwhacker

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50. It's complicated

Thu Mar 6, 2025, 07:00 PM

Mar 6

A trans female who begins tradition BEFORE puberty with estrogen injections and male hormone blockers, will never get the muscle strength and bone density that gives cis males their advantage over females. I fully agree that it's inappropriate for someone who transitioned male to female AFTER puberty, because they could have some of that extra strength and bone density.

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Gavin Newsom breaks with Democrats on trans athletes in sports [View all] kelly1mm Mar 6 OP

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A creep? No way. It was just one thing discussed. There is a fairness issue in terms or strength and aerobic capacity. brush Mar 6 #8

So what is his position? i didnt find it clear from the article. Amaryllis Mar 6 #2

You are right that it is unclear. It is clear that he thinks transwomen competing in women's sports is 'unfair' kelly1mm Mar 6 #5

Trans women AZSkiffyGeek Mar 6 #51

That's not how the community describes itself hueymahl Mar 6 #58

Just have to keep repeating what the election was supposedly about BumRushDaShow Mar 6 #3

As the mother of a female athlete, I agree with Newsome. lark Mar 6 #4

You may not get flamed as according to recent surveys a majority of Democrats agree with your and Gov kelly1mm Mar 6 #7

You are not alone radicalleft Mar 6 #17

What the fuck is there to flame? It is a reasonable concern. I am all fucking for Transgender Rights. SoFlaBro Mar 6 #29

Evidently not AZSkiffyGeek Mar 6 #53

So do I Mysterian Mar 6 #37

It's complicated TexasBushwhacker Mar 6 #50

So you think your daughter can play in sports AZSkiffyGeek Mar 6 #52

Maybe men, women and transgener leagues. See research results below. brush Mar 6 #6

"Transgender leagues" are not a viable thing EarlG Mar 6 #13

I have not bought into propaganda. There is a fairness issue as transgenders have an aerobid... brush Mar 6 #15

If you think there are enough transgender athletes to form transgender leagues EarlG Mar 6 #20

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Thank you. Solly Mack Mar 6 #34

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It is a non-issue Cirsium Mar 6 #38

I wish the medical community would weigh in on this a bit more. travelingthrulife Mar 6 #9

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You mean Lia Thomas who won one race and otherwise was completely average? EarlG Mar 6 #16

Brittney griner is the biggest , tallest, strongest female athlete I can think of and questionseverything Mar 6 #19

Sounds like he's running Jose Garcia Mar 6 #11

Yep! Only so many 80/20 issues you can be on the wrong side of and be a viable candidate nationally. nt kelly1mm Mar 6 #12

It is not an issue Cirsium Mar 6 #39

In the article Gov Newsom thinks it is an issue that hurt VP Harris's Presidential campaign to the extent kelly1mm Mar 6 #43

Tragic Cirsium Mar 6 #45

IMO he was asked to run last summer but turned Clooney and others down Bengus81 Mar 6 #31

Trans people markie Mar 6 #14

Lean same, with reservations because this could have been handled without making it an excuse to bash good people. Silent Type Mar 6 #18

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Governor Newsom left the room. Presidential Candidate Newsom emerged. usonian Mar 6 #22

I am beyond disgusted! people Mar 6 #24

Harris' loss cleared space for nuance in Dem positions on Trans issues. maxsolomon Mar 6 #25

Could some sports go the way of boxing with weight divisions? chowder66 Mar 6 #26

Some small clubs have them. The Grand Illuminist Mar 6 #27

Why not just create some sort of new categorization system for Kashkakat v.2.0 Mar 6 #28

Gavin wants to be president IronLionZion Mar 6 #30

The fundamental question is: Why do Women and Men compete separately? Tom Rinaldo Mar 6 #32

There is no issue here Cirsium Mar 6 #41

In reality, sure, it is inconsequential. That doesn't mean it isn't "an issue." Tom Rinaldo Mar 6 #46

That is a complete betrayal Cirsium Mar 6 #47

It presupposes that it can scientifically be determined... Tom Rinaldo Mar 6 #48

It has nothing to do with that at all Cirsium Mar 6 #49

You can't effect change unless you win. We also need to win back democrats that voted for Trump due to this issue. Pisces Mar 6 #54

The GQP has certainly found a fabulous non-issue issue with which to divide people groundloop Mar 6 #33

Why is it I hear more "discussion" on this from politicians BaronChocula Mar 6 #35

There are very few transgender athletes; and many, many politicians. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 6 #40

Some progressive Dems I've spoken to think trans issues were a factor in Harris' loss SpankMe Mar 6 #36

"nuancing their stance" Cirsium Mar 6 #42

Newsom is a corpratist Nigrum Cattus Mar 6 #44

Almost enough PeterIsMyBrother Mar 6 #55

Of all my Dem friends (and I have many) tavernier Mar 6 #56

Expressing that view, one that per polls is shared by a majority of Democrats here on DU is against the site rules kelly1mm Mar 6 #57

I think that's enough of this thread EarlG Mar 6 #60