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Judi Lynn

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46. Your HRW's reputation precedes your reference, of COURSE.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 07:08 PM
Mar 2013

Venezuela

Human Rights Watch's work in Venezuela became the subject of controversy in late 2008. In September 2008, Venezuela expelled two HRW staff accused of "anti-state activities"[35] Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro said "These groups, dressed up as human rights defenders, are financed by the United States. They are aligned with a policy of attacking countries that are building new economic models."[36] On December 17, 2008 an open letter was sent to the HRW Board of Directors in response to an HRW report, entitled, A Decade Under Chávez: Political Intolerance and Lost Opportunities for Advancing Human Rights in Venezuela.[37] 118 scholars from Argentina, Australia, Brazil, México, the United States, the U.K., Venezuela, and other countries publicly criticized HRW for a perceived bias against the government of Venezuela. The open letter criticized the report by stating that it "does not meet even the most minimal standards of scholarship, impartiality, accuracy, or credibility."[38] The letter also criticized the lead author of the report, Jose Miguel Vivanco, for his "political agenda", and called on Mr. Vivanco to discuss or debate his claims in "any public forum of his choosing".[6] Hugh O'Shaughnessy accused HRW of using false and misleading information, and said the report was "put together with the sort of know-nothing Washington bias..."[39] Kenneth Roth, director of Human Rights Watch responded, claiming the letter misrepresents "both the substance and the source material of the report.".[19] Tom Porteous, Human Rights Watch's London director, replied saying that O'Shaughnessy "...not only fails to provide any evidence for these allegations" but that "...more seriously he misrepresents HRW's positions in his apparent determination to undermine our well earned international reputation for accuracy and impartiality."[20]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Human_Rights_Watch

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A statement by the AVSN
September 30, 2008

As a broad network of organisations and individuals that has closely studied the significant changes in Venezuelan society since 1998 – including organising eight study tours to Venezuela involving more than 150 Australians from diverse backgrounds - we are obliged to respond to the biases, distortions and lies contained in the Human Rights Watch report “A Decade Under Chavez: Political Intolerance and Lost Opportunities for Advancing Human Rights in Venezuela” released in September 2008.

The key theme of the report - that “Ten years ago, Chavez promoted a new constitution that could have significantly improved human rights in Venezuela. But rather than advancing rights protections, his government has since moved in the opposite direction, sacrificing basic guarantees in pursuit of its own political agenda” - bears no relation to the reality in Venezuela today.

Here are some facts:

Political freedom

The report’s claim that “Discrimination on political grounds has been a defining feature of the Chavez presidency” is patently untrue.

All political parties in Venezuela, the majority of which are in opposition, operate without any constraints placed upon them. They organise public meetings and demonstrations, speak regularly in the media, stand candidates in all elections, hold party events, publish books and pamphlets, and disseminate (anti-government) propaganda in the streets and through the media – all without any government sanctions.

There are no political prisoners of any kind in Venezuela. On the contrary, despite the opposition’s persistent efforts to use violent and unconstitutional means to overthrow the government, the Chavez leadership has responded with tolerance. In 2007, for example, Chavez pardoned opponents who backed the failed 2002 coup against his democratically elected government, saying, "We want there to be a strong ideological and political debate - but in peace”.

More:
http://www.venezuelasolidarity.org/?q=node/280

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More Than 100 Experts Question Human Rights Watch's Venezuela Report
Dec 17 2008

In an open letter to the Board of Directors of Human Rights Watch, over 100 experts on Latin America criticized the organization's recent report on Venezuela, A Decade Under Chávez: Political Intolerance and Lost Opportunities for Advancing Human Rights in Venezuela, saying that it "does not meet even the most minimal standards of scholarship, impartiality, accuracy, or credibility." The signers include leading academic specialists from universities in the United States, including Harvard, Johns Hopkins, and a number of state universities, and academic institutions in Argentina, Australia, Brazil, México, the U.K., Venezuela and other countries. The letter cites Jose Miguel Vivanco, lead author of the report, saying "We did the report because we wanted to demonstrate to the world that Venezuela is not a model for anyone…"[1], as evidence of its political agenda. The letter also criticizes the report for making unsubstantiated allegations, and that some of the sources that Human Rights Watch relied on in the report are not credible.

"By publishing such a grossly flawed report, and acknowledging a political motivation in doing so, Mr. Vivanco has undermined the credibility of an important human rights organization," the letter states.

The letter notes that numerous sources cited in the report - including opposition newspapers El Universal and El Nacional, opposition group Súmate, and a mentally unstable opposition blogger - have been known to fabricate information, making it "difficult for most readers to know which parts of the report are true and which aren't." The letter also argues that the Human Rights Watch report makes sweeping allegations based on scant evidence. For example, its allegation of discrimination in government services is based on just one person whose nephew claimed she was denied medicine from a government program.

The full text of the letter follows:

December 16, 2008

Human Rights Watch
350 Fifth Avenue, 34th floor
New York, NY 10118-3299 USA

To the Board of Directors,

We write to call your attention to a report published by Human Rights Watch that does not meet even the most minimal standards of scholarship, impartiality, accuracy, or credibility. The document, A Decade Under Chávez: Political Intolerance and Lost Opportunities for Advancing Human Rights in Venezuela, appears to be a politically motivated essay rather than a human rights report. Indeed, the lead author of the report, Jose Miguel Vivanco, stated as much when he told the press just a few days after its publication, "We did the report because we wanted to demonstrate to the world that Venezuela is not a model for anyone…"[2]

More:
https://nacla.org/node/5334

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Has Human Rights Watch Joined Venezuela’s Opposition?
by Gregory Wilpert

It looks like the cat is out of the bag: Human Rights Watch has formally joined Venezuela’s opposition. Well, not quite; it is not a formally consummated deal yet, since their latest report does appeal to President Chavez by saying, “the criticisms offered (in the report) (should) not be mischaracterized as a partisan attack.”

Archives | Caracas (Venezuela) | 21 June 2004

hen why has just about everyone who supports the Chavez government taken the latest Human Rights Watch (HRW) report on Venezuela, about the country’s “Judicial Independence under Siege,” as precisely the opposite of what HRW says it is, as a “partisan attack”? Is it because they do not want to deal with the real issues, as HRW’s America’s Director José Miguel Vivanco suggests, or is it because the report actually is a partisan attack - one that is being launched just in time to turn national and international public opinion against the Chavez government as it faces an unprecedented recall referendum a mere two months from now?

This report is just the most recent and most revealing partisan attack against the Chavez government. It begins by basically equating the April 2002 coup attempt with the new Supreme Court law when it says, “When Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez Frías faced a coup d’état in April 2002, advocates of democracy in Venezuela and abroad roundly condemned the assault on the country’s constitutional order. Today Venezuela faces another constitutional crisis that could severely impair its already fragile democracy. This time, though, the threat comes from the government itself.” It ends by making demands that are typical of Venezuela’s opposition-demands that the government cannot possibly fulfill, such as suspending the new law, which has already taken effect. Then, since such a demand will not be fulfilled, the report, just as is typical of Venezuela’s opposition, takes the issue to international bodies, such as the World Bank and the OAS.

Valid criticism negated by relentless polemic

The HRW report correctly points out that Venezuela’s judicial system has pretty much always been in very poor shape. According to the report, “In terms of public credibility, the system was bankrupt” before Chavez came to power. The report then goes on to describe the efforts of the Chavez government to fundamentally revamp the judicial system, which succeeded to a limited extent, but then fizzled and eventually died.

The report, however, blames the failure on the country’s “political polarization under Chavez,” saying that “country has grown increasingly polarized in response to President Chávez’s policies and style of governance.” This is one of the points where HRW director Vivanco should not be surprised that Vice-President Rangel considers the report to be a partisan attack. According to the pro-government version events, it is the opposition that has caused polarization by not accepting Chavez as the legitimately elected president and by launching a media campaign against the Chavez government. To unilaterally put all of the blame for polarization in Chavez’ shoes, shows quite clearly where one’s sympathies lie, regardless of one’s position on judicial reform.

More:
http://www.voltairenet.org/article121200.html

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Smoke and Mirrors: An Analysis of Human Rights Watch's Report on Venezuela
Written by Gregory Wilpert
Tuesday, 21 October 2008 04:30

The September 18, 2008 Human Rights Watch report, "A Decade Under Chavez," raises a few problems with regard to the protection of political rights in Venezuela, but the few places where it is on target are almost completely drowned in a sea of de-contextualization, trumped-up accusations, and a clear and obvious bias in favor of the opposition and against the government.

Meta-Criticism

First, the focus of the report is on five specific issues relating to political rights (political discrimination, judicial independence, freedom of speech, labor organizing, and civil society organizing), completely leaving out other important political rights (such as the right to vote) and all social and economic rights. That the report has this narrow focus displays HRW's bias towards the better off, who already enjoy their full economic and social rights and are thus in a better position to exercise political rights. Also, it leads readers to believe that the Chavez government has, as a whole, made no progress in improving the human rights of Venezuelans—a clearly false proposition on almost every human rights front.

Second, throughout the report HRW fails to present incidents or policies in their proper context, which makes it more difficult to understand how and why certain things happen in Venezuela. As a result, by lacking this context, readers interpret the issues that the report discusses through the lens of their own prejudices or the false media impressions of Venezuela, such as the widespread images of Chavez the "caudillo" or "dictator" of Venezuela.

Third, the timing of the report's release was terrible, a mere two months before a major electoral contest, the regional elections. Since this is the third time HRW has released a report shortly before an electoral contest, the suspicion that HRW is actively trying to influence these events cannot be dismissed.

More:
http://upsidedownworld.org/main/venezuela-archives-35/1537-smoke-and-mirrors-an-analysis-of-human-rights-watchs-report-on-venezuela

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Scholars Respond to HRW’s Kenneth Roth’s Riposte on Venezuelan Human Rights
BY COHA Staff
– Posted on January 13, 2009

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(1) Mr. Roth writes: “Another one of your main accusations is that our report makes sweeping allegations that are not backed up by supporting facts or in some cases even logical arguments. . .

“The primary example you use to attempt to back this accusation is our conclusion that discrimination on political grounds has been a defining feature of the Chávez presidency. To make your point, you isolate a single case of a woman purportedly denied medicines on political grounds, and claim falsely that it is the only alleged instance of discrimination in government services cited in the entire 230-page report. We actually provide three such cases that we documented ourselves, while also referencing a 2005 report by the Inter-American Commission of Human Rights that concluded, on the basis of hundreds of cases of alleged discrimination, that a new discriminatory pattern in the awarding of work and public services had emerged in Venezuela.”

Our response:

First, let’s clarify what is at stake here. Imagine that a human rights organization issued a report claiming that the Bush Administration has discriminated against political opponents among people who applied for Medicaid, food stamps, and other federal government entitlement programs. Now imagine that the only evidence they provided for this claim consisted of one allegation by the nephew of someone who applied for Medicare benefits, and possibly two other similar allegations. No one would take such a report seriously. But that is exactly what Mr. Roth is defending with regard to HRW’s report on Venezuela.

We could not find the other two cases of alleged discrimination that Mr. Roth refers to above. However it should be clear to anyone who knows arithmetic that the difference between one and three allegations of discrimination in a set of programs that has served millions of people is not significant.

As for the 2005 report by the Inter-American Commission of Human Rights cited by Mr. Roth, it contains no documented cases, nor does it refer to any documented cases, of even alleged discrimination in the provision of government services.[1]

Thus, the HRW report neither provides nor cites any significant evidence for its sweeping generalization that “Citizens who exercised their right to call for the referendum– invoking one of the new participatory mechanisms championed by Chávez during the drafting of the 1999 Constitution– were threatened with retaliation and blacklisted from some government jobs and services.” (p. 10, italics added).

As we noted in our original letter, “This is outrageous and completely indefensible.”

If there were no other errors in the entire HRW report, this one enormously important unsubstantiated allegation would justify everything that we said with regard to the report not meeting “minimal standards of scholarship, impartiality, accuracy, or credibility.”

It is clear from his response that Mr. Roth has not taken this matter seriously. We therefore renew our appeal to the Board of Directors of Human Rights Watch to intervene and correct this report.

More:
http://www.coha.org/scholars-respond-to-hrw-directors-riposte-on-venezuelan-human-rights/

Serious Violence, Sir, Is Quite Possible Now The Magistrate Mar 2013 #1
NOTHING more scary than well armed evangelical socialists. Mika Mar 2013 #3
Those Fellows, Ma'am, Were More A Danger To Themselves Than To Others The Magistrate Mar 2013 #9
From the first, the oligarchy's organized opposition has committed to their own violence Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #42
actually he did sabbat hunter Mar 2013 #54
Remember the massacre of over 3,000 people which preceded that coup from the same President Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #56
Yes I do sabbat hunter Mar 2013 #102
Funny how no one thought these guys had 2nd Amendment rights. No NRA to support them. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2013 #103
You betcha. bemildred Mar 2013 #21
Violence Generally is, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2013 #29
From what I understand unreadierLizard Mar 2013 #2
How is that possible with so many guns? harmonicon Mar 2013 #4
"Civilians are only authorized to hold .22 rifles and shotguns" slackmaster Mar 2013 #11
It's a good thing that so many people are standing up for their god-given rights and bucking... harmonicon Mar 2013 #12
Why are you still harping on this? Threedifferentones Mar 2013 #22
Here's a thing you may have missed in your lessons on sarcasm: harmonicon Mar 2013 #27
Sarcasm, right? lark Mar 2013 #107
They've prohibited the sale and consumption of alcohol for the next week, until the funeral/mourning MADem Mar 2013 #20
Jesus with a gun Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #5
right, because chavez either painted that himself or commissioned someone to paint it.. frylock Mar 2013 #7
Haters of what exactly? Please be specific. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #8
the democratic process? socialism? you tell me.. frylock Mar 2013 #30
I don't know what to say if you don't find that image deeply disturbing. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #34
i'm still trying to understand chavez's culpability in the creation of this image.. frylock Mar 2013 #36
Oh come off it Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #44
Please go ahead and post some information on these people Hugo Chavez has murdered. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #45
Your HRW's reputation precedes your reference, of COURSE. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #46
Pedigree Tells On Occasion, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2013 #47
HRW came out of Helsinki Watch Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #50
Well acquainted with their origin. I've posted articles on them for well over 10 years, Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #52
Like I said, you either choose to trust them or take the word of the Venezuelan government. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #53
His record is what we ALL, including the distinguished people who sent the HRW censure, regard Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #57
Another example of their work Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #59
Hard to avoid acknowledging Guatemala and torture, after all the history, isn't it? Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #60
So when you make the pilgrimage to the shrine of St. Hugo the Stuffed Zorro Mar 2013 #61
What????? Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #74
the cops just barbecued a man here in california.. frylock Mar 2013 #48
The police are officials of the government. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #49
What do you think about Saint Constantine? JDPriestly Mar 2013 #58
Haters of anything that defies the global system of predatory capitalism. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #32
word up frylock Mar 2013 #37
True talking, honey! bitchkitty Mar 2013 #39
Thanks, ronnie624 Mar 2013 #41
It also very well sums up the Tea Party and the reactionary right here at home. bemildred Mar 2013 #26
Obviously you do not remember the Standard Oil rule of that country. jwirr Mar 2013 #31
They're Law-Abiding Respectable Gun Owners. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #6
They're called self defense militias and EVERY left wing revolution........ socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #10
Oh, bullshit. harmonicon Mar 2013 #13
Behind every Gandhi, there are 1,000 armed peasants... David__77 Mar 2013 #14
And In Gandhi's Case, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2013 #18
And I've always though of Chavez as an armed thug and not a Gandhi. Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #62
I want my leaders to attack peaceful, but defend with force. David__77 Mar 2013 #63
Why would you want them to attack the peaceful? Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #64
Typo: "attack peacefully." David__77 Mar 2013 #66
We call those paramilitary groups when we don't like them. joshcryer Mar 2013 #75
It depends on who they support and who provides funding for them.......... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #85
The boligarchs are decidedly capitalist. joshcryer Mar 2013 #105
Every democratically elected president needs a private army hack89 Mar 2013 #82
When you show me a socialist revolution that....... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #84
Every socialist revolution needs a second admendment hack89 Mar 2013 #88
Yep. Until the capitalists STOP undermining them at every turn...... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #89
There are many here that believe that only the government should have guns hack89 Mar 2013 #92
I haven't followed your take on the gun debate, BUT...... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #94
No, the "wild card" is the coup-mongers - will they move? David__77 Mar 2013 #15
Good for them because the thugs can't wait to dismantle all their gains n/t Catherina Mar 2013 #16
What the mother-loving EFF!? How are we going to topple their govt. with assholes like these? Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #17
Awesome PB. "Unlike Allende, we're armed." Catherina Mar 2013 #24
Wait. Guns in the hands of random yahoos is a good thing now? I can't keep up. Throd Mar 2013 #19
Not random yahoos. ronnie624 Mar 2013 #33
In other words, random yahoos. Throd Mar 2013 #90
So if a working class militia are "random yahoos"..... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #91
"paid random yahoos" Throd Mar 2013 #93
So "paid random yahoos" are OK?.......... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #95
Of course not Throd Mar 2013 #96
Why do you call that the "probable scenario"?......... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #97
Because the true believers always view any opposing idea as a counterattack Throd Mar 2013 #98
No need to create an enemy in this particular case....... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #99
the article fails to mention the 2002 coup Enrique Mar 2013 #23
EXACTLY! There's also something of a history...... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #25
Not Really Defeated Without Guns, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2013 #28
Armed people become a wild card. Unarmed people can be ignored...nt Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #35
The armed forces imported to Venezuela from Colombia to murder Chavez Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #43
worrisome booley Mar 2013 #38
I had a Chavista once from the pizza joint near my house. Arkana Mar 2013 #40
OK...here we have a predication being invented for U.S. intervention. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #51
My immediate impression, too, when I saw this headline long before it was posted here. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #55
Thanks. and I'll amend it to "the continuation of a predication". Ken Burch Mar 2013 #65
My god, I just got back and looked at my post and saw I wrote "wrong" meaning "right". Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #67
It's all good...you are one of the most eloquent posters on DU. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #73
do you really think Obama is that stupid? He did not go to Harvard & become president on his rich wordpix Mar 2013 #69
Uh...Honduras?... Ken Burch Mar 2013 #72
Are you seriously saying Obama was behind the coup in Honduras? ButterflyBlood Mar 2013 #77
Jesus w/a machine gun, reminds me of our RWnut religious fundies wordpix Mar 2013 #68
Based on that mural, these people are wackos and have no idea what Jesus is all about. Pterodactyl Mar 2013 #70
Apparently you don't grasp it's painted in a barrio, like our own "slums" Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #71
apparently you don't grasp an analogy wordpix Mar 2013 #83
Poor people who are armed are less easy to destroy. The oligarchy wants power back. Selatius Mar 2013 #76
If this was about some armed Tea Party militia, I have a feeling the comments would be different ButterflyBlood Mar 2013 #78
The Venezuelan shantytown dwellers in the hills above Caracas were slaughtered Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #79
This Is Nonesense, Sir: The Value Of Violence Is the End It Seeks The Magistrate Mar 2013 #80
And if I may add to your thoughts here..... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #87
The arms aren't a real source of power. napoleon_in_rags Mar 2013 #81
Hi ya, napoleon in rags... JackRiddler Mar 2013 #100
To me its a reference to homeless mentally ill. napoleon_in_rags Mar 2013 #104
I see! JackRiddler Mar 2013 #106
That's interesting, I didn't know that. napoleon_in_rags Mar 2013 #108
What a pleasure to read your thoughts... JackRiddler Mar 2013 #109
I'm glad you like that idea. napoleon_in_rags Mar 2013 #110
Thanks again! JackRiddler Mar 2013 #111
If any people needed a militia to protect themselves from their would be conquerors Exultant Democracy Mar 2013 #86
Preemptive AP propaganda to defend a possible coup d'etat... JackRiddler Mar 2013 #101
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