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rhett o rick

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48. I agree up to a certain level. However, good engineers dont necessarily
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:18 AM
Feb 2012

make good managers. At some level the manager needs to rely on his/her experts and not do the engineering themselves. I have seen too often that a good engineer gets promoted to management, then thinks he/she should out engineer the experts.

NASA did a horrible, horrible thing, when they refused to listen to him. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2012 #1
Not just NASA. no_hypocrisy Feb 2012 #11
Thank you for that information. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2012 #12
Is this just more CT stuff? former9thward Feb 2012 #14
Here's what I could find online. I remember the discussion well in 1986 when it happened. Conceded no_hypocrisy Feb 2012 #21
Don't forget, a phone call doesn't leave a track hedgehog Feb 2012 #32
Well done Kolesar Feb 2012 #50
The launch had been delayed multiple times... Cassandra Feb 2012 #54
Ooooh defense of Reagan. Imagine that! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2012 #59
Ooooh you building a strawman. Imagine that! former9thward Feb 2012 #60
The Gipper complicit. Tell me it ain't true, Joe indepat Feb 2012 #24
It ain't true, Joe. dairydog91 Feb 2012 #53
It is true. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #61
I remember that discussion well - BlueMTexpat Feb 2012 #42
See My Post Farther Down ProfessorGAC Feb 2012 #52
If I remember correctly raygun wanted that flight that day madokie Feb 2012 #47
This was not an "engineering miscalculation". This error was a management error. The engineering rhett o rick Feb 2012 #2
yeah, that stuck out for me, too Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #7
The original Hyatt design for the supporting rods was exboyfil Feb 2012 #25
That's a natural corporate media, authoritarian bias coming through in the column. Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #15
The managers were also engineers. eomer Feb 2012 #27
In my book, once you become a manager, you stop being an engineer. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #28
Alan McDonald didn't stop being an engineer. Lionel Mandrake Feb 2012 #31
I was generalizing. A problem I see is that when you have engineers as managers rhett o rick Feb 2012 #36
Robert Lund's position at Morton Thiokol was "VP of Engineering". eomer Feb 2012 #43
I agree up to a certain level. However, good engineers dont necessarily rhett o rick Feb 2012 #48
RIP - You DID what you COULD, the shuttle astronauts will tell you that soon,,,,, benld74 Feb 2012 #3
Amen! Boombaby Feb 2012 #5
A man of honour, and a true public servant. PDJane Feb 2012 #4
An Example Of What Happens DallasNE Feb 2012 #6
iirc, there was also a lot of external pressure up top Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #10
A True Engineer burrowowl Feb 2012 #8
Does anyone know who was the on-site asshole that made the final decision to go for launch? denbot Feb 2012 #9
If I'm reading this correctly, Stanley Reinartz, Shuttle Project Manager Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #13
I think I found your answer denbot Lochloosa Feb 2012 #18
RIP Roger and thanks for your service. Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #16
You're welcome. Lionel Mandrake Feb 2012 #26
I was going to watch the launch at home and get to work a little late rocktivity Feb 2012 #17
I thought Reagan's speech on TV that evening was wonderful.... LeftinOH Feb 2012 #19
He died Jan. 6th. Not really LBN tawadi Feb 2012 #20
I remember Richard Feynman absolutely hammering NASA about the o-rings. edbermac Feb 2012 #22
This is a great read slutticus Feb 2012 #23
As I recall, Rogers was upset about that stunt. Lionel Mandrake Feb 2012 #29
Read "The Cognitive Style of PowerPoint" catrose Feb 2012 #30
actually, Tufte's point was that the Powerless Pointless slides failed MadLinguist Feb 2012 #38
It's been awhile since I looked at it catrose Feb 2012 #39
I think it is better for your career to stand by and let bad things happen hedgehog Feb 2012 #33
I attended a communications class that attempted to blame Boisjoly TrogL Feb 2012 #34
CORRECT Skittles Feb 2012 #35
I still remember vividly... sendero Feb 2012 #37
I will never forget that day. It's my birthday. Zoeisright Feb 2012 #40
IIRc, CNN had cut awayt to commercial. I had CNN on but didn't see it live. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2012 #58
Wow! Read this obit in the LA Times this a.m. & had never heard his story b4-Shocking!!!!!! SoCalDemGrrl Feb 2012 #41
Blessed be the truth-tellers... Surya Gayatri Feb 2012 #44
NASA Was Trying to Go from R&D to Operational Status and Pushed by Reagan to do so solarman350 Feb 2012 #45
Ignore engineers and scientists at your peril malaise Feb 2012 #46
Wow... first I've heard of this. 4_TN_TITANS Feb 2012 #49
I Remember Him ProfessorGAC Feb 2012 #51
''...as the vehicle cleared the tower Bob whispered to me that we had just dodged a bullet.'' Gabi Hayes Feb 2012 #55
IIRC, the plan was to have Reagan talk to the astronauts LIVE from the SOTU, not just mentioning it, GreatCaesarsGhost Feb 2012 #56
Very interesting article obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #57
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