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Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
140. Exactly, All kids.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 09:02 AM
Feb 2012

If someone decides not to use the school to educate their children, they do not get to choose to stop help paying for the school. You have been suggesting that they can and should be able to stop paying taxes for schools.

Enough Already 1ProudAtheist Feb 2012 #1
Public school players have to maintain a certain gpa to play. Homeschoolers? Who 'vets' their grades peacebird Feb 2012 #13
Home schooling shouldn't even be legal. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #14
I would have thought so too, but my nephew was home-schooled. He is presently truthisfreedom Feb 2012 #28
His scholarship should be revoked immediately. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #113
Do I detect a hint of sarcasm here? nxylas Feb 2012 #132
Aren't you being a bit harsh? totodeinhere Feb 2012 #196
What was the program? Or may your nephew is just damn smart? nt nanabugg Feb 2012 #253
Vincent Giordano agrees: NJ Teachers Union Boss With 500K Salary Tells Poor "Life's Not Fair" stockholmer Feb 2012 #118
I think the opposition to vouchers is mostly from people whose personal economic future is bound up TMED Feb 2012 #154
Not all Charters are like that LynneSin Feb 2012 #162
Jesus... xocet Feb 2012 #33
LOL! peacebird Feb 2012 #35
Drop Kick Me Jesus Through The Goal Post of Life stockholmer Feb 2012 #124
eisogesis versus exogesis grantcart Feb 2012 #274
Sorry, you are reading that book all wrong.... xocet Feb 2012 #279
Evidently, Someone Ripped Some Pages Out Of Your Oxford... Thaddeus Kosciuszko Feb 2012 #71
+10000, and especially so are his hateful followers stockholmer Feb 2012 #122
If you're not taking classes at that high school, you can't play sports there Cali_Democrat Feb 2012 #2
I am a bit split on this ...okay not really underpants Feb 2012 #4
I think the "pays taxes" argument supercedes all others. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #7
Childless property owners pay school taxes too jmowreader Feb 2012 #128
Excellent post! nt U4ikLefty Feb 2012 #252
K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2012 #265
At our high school, sports is a class wtmusic Feb 2012 #152
I Choose Not to Enroll in the Military LarryNM Feb 2012 #194
The second thing you'd like to be able to do isn't such a bad idea jmowreader Feb 2012 #254
Schools get money based on student enrollment obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #10
That's why many schools punish truancy harshly Cali_Democrat Feb 2012 #57
Yup -- I'm surprised people don't know this obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #62
Why isn't your cat in school? TMED Feb 2012 #144
That would have made christx30 Feb 2012 #267
Okay that is a point that I did not know underpants Feb 2012 #134
Their Parents Support The Activities; Thus, It Would Be Unethical To Deny Their Children Thaddeus Kosciuszko Feb 2012 #74
Then give them back taxes paid towards the school.... Zax2me Feb 2012 #257
Yes but they don't attend the school so why let them play on the school's teams? Botany Feb 2012 #3
or that is another way to put it underpants Feb 2012 #5
As long as you let them opt out of school taxes. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #6
If they don't want to pay property taxes that support a local Botany Feb 2012 #11
Because everyone can just move away. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #12
No. Funding public education is the responsibility of all citizens. Period. An educated population peacebird Feb 2012 #16
What other services do you suggest citizens fund that they cannot take advantage of? nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #18
Everyone benefits from an educated citizenry. On edit: you said "take advantage of"... Hence our peacebird Feb 2012 #23
So are home schooled kids uneducated? Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #102
Nice straw man, i never said home schooled kids were uneducated. peacebird Feb 2012 #135
You said everyone benefits from and educated citizenry Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #136
They CAN take advantage of public education (and sports). KamaAina Feb 2012 #26
They are choosing to take advantage of sports. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #104
So, they can join a non-school sports program? boppers Feb 2012 #123
I don't have children obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #40
Grants you future access. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #105
Not if you are beyond child-bearing years, like most of the adult population. spooky3 Feb 2012 #180
Who paid for your public education? kemah Feb 2012 #195
what does that have to do with "grants you future access?" spooky3 Feb 2012 #230
ALL OF THEM. Fire Departments have to serve disproportionately poor neighborhoods... NYC_SKP Feb 2012 #63
I agree. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #107
But allow them to go to the war zone to play sports. wtmusic Feb 2012 #158
gang activity doesn't have the prevalence Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #160
Or work to improve the district... LanternWaste Feb 2012 #188
So if it takes 10 years then at least you are helping the future children. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #189
i don't have kids. can i opt out of paying school taxes? frylock Feb 2012 #17
Sure. It's the new thing. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #19
no, but since you pay taxes, you can play on the high school team. provis99 Feb 2012 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author provis99 Feb 2012 #37
When you were in school other people paid kemah Feb 2012 #145
You seem to be operating under the delusion that people pay taxes to send their children to school Thor_MN Feb 2012 #38
I thought schools were to help kids? Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #109
Exactly, All kids. Thor_MN Feb 2012 #140
Yes, all kids. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #141
No, you were suggesting that homeschoolers should not have to pay taxes for public schools. Thor_MN Feb 2012 #142
if they can't participate in activities, yes Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #146
You seem to be unable to comprehend that we pay taxes to educate all children Thor_MN Feb 2012 #247
You seem unable to respond to my points. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #249
You seem to be unable to comprehend what I've already said Thor_MN Feb 2012 #270
Your lack of answer is an answer. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #271
Go back and read my posts and you will see that I have answered you Thor_MN Feb 2012 #272
Using your logical, then those of us with no children dflprincess Feb 2012 #78
My logical is that schools are there to help all kids. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #111
I think you may be lost tech_smythe Feb 2012 #83
Brat? Nice. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #112
if they want to drain public school resources.. then yes tech_smythe Feb 2012 #116
Or maybe they're just living in the Bronx and don't want their kids to use the metal detectors. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #119
Hi, what planet do you live on? tech_smythe Feb 2012 #120
You're having your words turned around on you with Broderick Feb 2012 #139
You paint with a broad brush. jhasp Feb 2012 #130
Every homeschooling parent I've ever talked to claims proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #168
Okay.... jhasp Feb 2012 #177
there seems to be a contradiction in your posts: spooky3 Feb 2012 #183
Indoctrination isn't always hateful jhasp Feb 2012 #192
thanks for the clarification as to your intent spooky3 Feb 2012 #232
And education programs dealing with homonyms, too. LanternWaste Feb 2012 #190
LOL. Long days at work definitely stress my grammatical ability. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #191
This message was self-deleted by its author Occupy_2012 Feb 2012 #41
which is ironic really tech_smythe Feb 2012 #85
The Considerations Of Parents Who Choose To Home-School Thaddeus Kosciuszko Feb 2012 #75
In our county, we have an alternative public magnet school that does this ehrnst Feb 2012 #153
You might very well be right but I fear these "school the kids @ home" fundy ... Botany Feb 2012 #163
There are people that home school their kids because of special needs ehrnst Feb 2012 #175
It is a complex issue and did not mean to paint w/ a broad brush Botany Feb 2012 #178
Not everyone christx30 Feb 2012 #268
I oppose this from a school pride/spirit perspective Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #8
I agree with this obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #21
Ruby, Put Your Liberal Hat Back On. Thaddeus Kosciuszko Feb 2012 #77
Children who are home schooled have not been socialized Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #99
So homeschool kids aren't properly socialized and... jhasp Feb 2012 #131
+1 (nt) Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #193
Do not agree obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #9
UGH ForeverLiberal Feb 2012 #15
"Home schoolers literally take money from the kids who are in public schools." Thaddeus Kosciuszko Feb 2012 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author Occupy_2012 Feb 2012 #86
Take = Seize, Capture, Procure, Steal, Appropriate, Purloin, etc. Thaddeus Kosciuszko Feb 2012 #93
This makes no sense. jhasp Feb 2012 #133
So you admit that you are wasting your money underpants Feb 2012 #261
Yes, but the schools don't have to spend any money educating the home schooled totodeinhere Feb 2012 #198
Schools to GET any money for homeschoolers underpants Feb 2012 #262
couldn't the homeschoolers make their own private teams ? JI7 Feb 2012 #20
They do -- they have private teams obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #22
so what is the purpose of this bill ? JI7 Feb 2012 #25
To prove they're more "godly" than you are maxrandb Feb 2012 #30
to steal money from public school bankrupting them faster tech_smythe Feb 2012 #87
Probably college athletic scholarships obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #52
Fun. Thaddeus Kosciuszko Feb 2012 #80
That's what I was thinking as well. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #43
100% right obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #48
I know you didn't mean it this way but when you said "They often do have their own teams, and even pampango Feb 2012 #138
Students and their parents are deciding to be home schooled Nikia Feb 2012 #185
I'm all for allowing home schooled children to try out for Public School teams. hughee99 Feb 2012 #24
Finally, some sanity in this thread a2liberal Feb 2012 #39
Nobody is saying they can't play on sports teams obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #44
PUBLIC I think is the key word here. hughee99 Feb 2012 #59
I don't get to use the same resources obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #64
If you were of the appropriate age to compete in high school athletics hughee99 Feb 2012 #73
if they want to be ON the team, they should be IN the school tech_smythe Feb 2012 #89
In MA, home schooled students have to pay the same fees as any other player. hughee99 Feb 2012 #101
easier to deny the brats tech_smythe Feb 2012 #106
the school looses money for every home-school'd player on the team tech_smythe Feb 2012 #88
Then written into the same law should be something to accomodate this. hughee99 Feb 2012 #103
you really don't seem to understand the point of this law do you tech_smythe Feb 2012 #108
Based on your comments and I'm the one with an angle? hughee99 Feb 2012 #117
the difference is law... tech_smythe Feb 2012 #121
If you think the kids get a better education at home, hughee99 Feb 2012 #125
*sighs* do you make it a habbit of not even bothering to read replies? tech_smythe Feb 2012 #126
Read every bit of it. hughee99 Feb 2012 #127
How so? Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #197
schools get paid for attendence tech_smythe Feb 2012 #211
Two things Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #214
Not this again... jmowreader Feb 2012 #255
Then let them form a "virtual homeschool" KamaAina Feb 2012 #27
That Would Not Be Fair To The Other Teams. Thaddeus Kosciuszko Feb 2012 #82
You have a point. KamaAina Feb 2012 #84
...sorry, I'm WAY over this guy. SoapBox Feb 2012 #29
Wonderful policy. Parents of home school students are taxed to fund school atheletic programs. jody Feb 2012 #31
They aren't being denied anything. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #45
They pay taxes to support sports, legally can refuse to go to school, so the result is they are jody Feb 2012 #51
I pay those same taxes for the same thing obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #54
You have my support. nt jody Feb 2012 #58
Yes, because that makes so much sense, doesn't it? obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #65
We ALL pay taxes to support a community and a lifestyle proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #61
What "We ALL pay taxes to support" is not the question. It is whether for a program that has not jody Feb 2012 #66
I have never once called 911 for help from my local police proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #70
The parents opted out. Their choice. They can enroll their kids in one of the private neverforget Feb 2012 #49
I agree if their tax bill is reduced the appropriate amount. nt jody Feb 2012 #53
So, everyone without children can get a reduction, too? obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #55
The question is whether society benefits from education and how to apportion the cost of education jody Feb 2012 #60
That's not your argument upthread obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #67
Why? Should people who don't have kids not help fund schools? neverforget Feb 2012 #69
I said nothing about funding schools. I addressed funding sports programs. nt jody Feb 2012 #72
You said this in post 53 "I agree if their tax bill is reduced the appropriate amount. nt" neverforget Feb 2012 #81
"The parents opted out. Their choice." Thaddeus Kosciuszko Feb 2012 #90
Nothing wrong with that. Send them to a school where there are other children. neverforget Feb 2012 #110
They only "opted out" because that's the Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #199
So a kid who doesn't go to that school can take the spot of kid who actually attends the neverforget Feb 2012 #243
Yes it does Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #244
It costs the kid who is physically attending the school a spot. Period. neverforget Feb 2012 #248
And why is that kid owed a spot? Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #250
I don't have any children, so what should the district give me? obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #50
Understand but IMO there is a difference between asserting society benefits from education and jody Feb 2012 #56
"I want to keep my precious away from public school low lifes AND let them play football too". nt msongs Feb 2012 #32
This is going to create a "soup sandwich" maxrandb Feb 2012 #34
Home school bashers Ratty Feb 2012 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Occupy_2012 Feb 2012 #92
they don't get because they don't want to... fascisthunter Feb 2012 #171
Total Accord Is Never Anticipated--But There Are Many Varieties Of Bright Lights. Thaddeus Kosciuszko Feb 2012 #96
Two progressive families we know choose to home school because they live in a big city. pampango Feb 2012 #143
What's wrong with Dayton City schools? Nikia Feb 2012 #269
Should students at private schools get to play on public school sports teams? obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #46
+1.nt wtmusic Feb 2012 #147
If that private school doesn't have a team for the sport and the public one Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #201
perfect point underpants Feb 2012 #263
multi town in low population states. guss Feb 2012 #47
It seems like a good idea. HuckleB Feb 2012 #68
Are they going to be allowed WoodyM90 Feb 2012 #76
would that be the romney rule? tech_smythe Feb 2012 #91
It doesn't work that way in our community ehrnst Feb 2012 #155
Are they part of that class or a student? Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #202
We had this rule when I was a HS coach in FL in the 1990's JCMach1 Feb 2012 #94
I cannot believe the home school hate in this thread. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #95
considering that most HSers now a days are fundies teaching their kids fairy tales as facts... tech_smythe Feb 2012 #114
They are also very smart. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #137
The children matter the most. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #97
FWIW, most homeschool parents I know don't want access to public school teams/ facilities/ whatever. LeftyMom Feb 2012 #98
Hey, our own Ava was home schooled and look where she is! graywarrior Feb 2012 #100
She didn't play football. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #159
Well, I guess you told me! graywarrior Feb 2012 #186
This is Bad Policy LarryNM Feb 2012 #115
Letting untrained "teachers" be a future voter's sole influence wtmusic Feb 2012 #157
On the other hand Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #203
Faith is back... SayIt Feb 2012 #129
"Faith".... no. More like Political religio-fanaticsim that is Unamerican fascisthunter Feb 2012 #170
For those who complain about not having kids but still pay property tax kemah Feb 2012 #148
Agreed - they should meet the academic standards required for participation. ehrnst Feb 2012 #156
I see no problem - it's not the kids who decided to homeschool. ehrnst Feb 2012 #149
What? Let kids participate in school sports, school drama, school band... just1voice Feb 2012 #174
Is it better for society if the kid Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #204
If they pay school taxes, why not, however... Javaman Feb 2012 #150
Do school taxes go to the schools? JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2012 #208
I know a portion of my property taxes go to the schools here in my city. Javaman Feb 2012 #210
Have you ever heard of a home schooler who DIDN'T get straight A's? underpants Feb 2012 #264
Yes, actually I have. Javaman Feb 2012 #273
Well I never have underpants Feb 2012 #276
dupe. nt Javaman Feb 2012 #277
funny how that works. LOL nt Javaman Feb 2012 #278
Next: "I want to homeschool my kid for only some of his classes wtmusic Feb 2012 #151
Why? Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #206
Ah, "authoritarian" is any system involving obligation wtmusic Feb 2012 #215
True, unless you use the definition Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #219
Wow, a real anarchist. wtmusic Feb 2012 #223
If there are all these homeschoolers out there let them former their own teams & clubs LynneSin Feb 2012 #161
Seems Like a Decent Bill On the Road Feb 2012 #164
Then you better send them to school to pick up that lunch they paid for, too. wtmusic Feb 2012 #165
So you would rather them go hungry as well? Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #207
No, they have to play by society's rules. wtmusic Feb 2012 #213
And we are discussing what those rules are Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #216
Then don't change the subject wtmusic Feb 2012 #221
Feeding poor kids isn't the best use of funds Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #224
Why just kids? Why not feed the homeless from school lunch programs too? wtmusic Feb 2012 #225
Because adults are or at least can be responsible for themselves Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #235
Whims like, oh, making them stay home so they can indoctrinate them? wtmusic Feb 2012 #236
"Indoctrinate" them is what parents are supposed to do Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #239
Government Service are All Chinese Menu, to Use Your Term, On the Road Feb 2012 #228
On average public school kids far exceed public school standards. wtmusic Feb 2012 #229
Luckily Enough, Homeschoolers are Supporting *You* On the Road Feb 2012 #234
You think athletics is the only thing kids miss out on when they're kept at home? wtmusic Feb 2012 #237
encourages the destruction of our Commons fascisthunter Feb 2012 #169
I don't think that is how it works Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #209
Then you don't understand it very well. wtmusic Feb 2012 #216
That just showed what I already said Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #218
You're digging yourself a hole. wtmusic Feb 2012 #222
So why are you wanting to take money away from Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #240
So In Your Mind On the Road Feb 2012 #226
I have no idea what you are trying to say fascisthunter Feb 2012 #238
Depends on the state Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #241
Yes. I Can't Believe Some of the Comments Supporting This Nonsense. n/t LarryNM Feb 2012 #182
Three reasons this bill is bad underpants Feb 2012 #242
oh bullshit. if the sports teams are good enough for Johnny, then the school should be too. Scout Feb 2012 #166
The Anti-Social Sentiment is Sick and is destroying our Commons fascisthunter Feb 2012 #167
Why progressives staunchly support compulsory.. Puzzledtraveller Feb 2012 #172
Compulsory Education is a necessity. kemah Feb 2012 #176
There will be a massive increase in sports injuries just1voice Feb 2012 #173
If Any Enrolled Student Is Denied Any Place LarryNM Feb 2012 #179
Public students are also denied Extra Curricular kemah Feb 2012 #205
I thought that extracurriculars were part of the decision in where to go to school Nikia Feb 2012 #181
Elections have consequences eringer Feb 2012 #184
Be careful what you ask for... brooklynite Feb 2012 #187
Good one. kemah Feb 2012 #200
This bill is going to have a nightmare of consequences, and none of them Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #212
It's probably good for the kids. hay rick Feb 2012 #220
I will not win any friends by saying this, but homeschooling should be abolished Taverner Feb 2012 #227
Will you be my friend? wtmusic Feb 2012 #231
But of course! Taverner Feb 2012 #233
Personally I have no problem with home schooling LostinRed Feb 2012 #245
They do realize that African-Americans will also be playing? Tom Ripley Feb 2012 #246
When we were in the US my african american neighbors were home schooling their own children.nt expatriate2mex Feb 2012 #251
So many blows against freedom in this thread...anti-choice much? Zax2me Feb 2012 #256
I agree with you. I consider myself to be an old time expatriate2mex Feb 2012 #258
Fuck that bullshit. n/t Hotler Feb 2012 #259
Very much against this concept Jimbo S Feb 2012 #260
Here Again Religious Loonies Want To Make All the Rules we can do it Feb 2012 #266
So can I send me son to one school, and yet have him play football at another?? JoePhilly Feb 2012 #275
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