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SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
26. Fires can move with incredibly rapidity,
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 12:58 AM
Jul 2013

that's how people get trapped.

Unfortunately, TV and movies tend to show fires as being sluggish, allowing dramatic rescues to take place. In reality, that doesn't usually happen, and returning to a burning building is generally a very bad idea.

There are any number of excellent books out there about specific fires. Recently I read Killer Show by John Barylick, about the Station Fire in West Warwick, RI, on February 20, 2003 killing 100 people. The nightclub went from being perfectly okay to unsurvivable in something like 90 seconds.

The Big Burn by Timothy Egan subtitled Teddy Roosevelt and the Fire that Saved America is about a forest fire in 1910 that burned three million acres, totally destroyed five towns in Washington state, Idaho, and Montana. In two days it burned three million acres. An area roughly the size of Connecticut.

October 8, 1871 there was a big fire in Chicago. That very same day there was a fire in Wisconsin, called the Pestigo fire, that killed at least 1500 people, possibly 2500. And I bet you never heard about that one, because Chicago got all the press coverage. Firestorm at Peshtigo by Denise Gess and William Lutz is a riveting account of that fire.

One more terrible fire and a good book about it: Under a Flaming Sky by Daniel James Brown tells of a forest fire that consumed Hinckley, Minnesota, on September 1, 1894. Over 400 people died that day.

Fire is terrible and dangerous far beyond what most people realize.

Damn, that's really horrible... petronius Jun 2013 #1
Another 22 in the hospital sweetloukillbot Jun 2013 #2
Thank you for adding that..just horrific. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2013 #4
19 now Catherina Jun 2013 #3
Oh no! ! 911 twitter now saying entie Prescott crew of firefighters killed Catherina Jun 2013 #5
No! This is just so out of control, too much loss of life. Jefferson23 Jun 2013 #8
This is awful, awful Catherina Jun 2013 #10
So damn sad. Shrike47 Jun 2013 #6
Pic :( Catherina Jun 2013 #7
Dear god. I heard in the background on AM radio that many were missing but didn't expect Purveyor Jun 2013 #9
LIVE: Coverage of the Yarnell Fire Catherina Jun 2013 #11
..................... alittlelark Jun 2013 #12
Terrible. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #13
This is the kind of thing that local news often does extremely well. SheilaT Jun 2013 #18
A local Arizona station is streaming live. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2013 #25
Prayers! Iliyah Jun 2013 #14
Oh, no. I am so sorry to hear this. SheilaT Jun 2013 #15
Local news is saying 19.... DesertRat Jun 2013 #16
So sad. Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #17
WTF happened!! Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #19
Fires can move with incredibly rapidity, SheilaT Jul 2013 #26
I realize that. I was a fighter fighter. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #28
Then I hope you know just SheilaT Jul 2013 #32
Fire fighter is the most dangerous non military job in the US Government grantcart Jul 2013 #41
"Our" fire traveled at 63 mph. kaiden Jul 2013 #44
You are so right that fires cannot be out-run. SheilaT Jul 2013 #54
Also - hedgehog Jul 2013 #52
Devasted dbackjon Jul 2013 #20
very sad rollin74 Jul 2013 #21
This is very bad news for us. snort Jul 2013 #22
I'm so sorry. What a tragedy. deurbano Jul 2013 #38
Welcome to DU, deurbano. This is so sad. calimary Jul 2013 #55
I am deeply sorry, such devastation of life. Words fail in such times. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2013 #56
Cut their benefits! Kill their unions! onehandle Jul 2013 #23
There are just no words.... Marrah_G Jul 2013 #24
I distinctly remember that fire fighting would be one place where the sequester would be felt... ReRe Jul 2013 #27
I belive this is the most firefighters killed in a single wild fire KinMd Jul 2013 #29
have names been released? Kali Jul 2013 #30
One of my best friends is a wildland firefighter who lives in Yarnell... Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #31
very sad. sending positive thoughts DesertFlower Jul 2013 #33
These were the elite firefighters-first municipality in the nation to have a hotshot team: Liberty Belle Jul 2013 #34
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #39
I'm rarely this shocked by a headline. Kurovski Jul 2013 #35
Horrible. Wheezy Jul 2013 #36
Very sorry for them and their families. Ash_F Jul 2013 #37
horrible azurnoir Jul 2013 #40
I knew several of these men. TM99 Jul 2013 #42
{{hugs}} Delphinus Jul 2013 #51
Thank you Delphinus. TM99 Jul 2013 #53
So very sorry for your loss, shocking turn of events. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2013 #57
Thank you. n/t TM99 Jul 2013 #58
Oh dear! longship Jul 2013 #43
Firefighters are public employees . . . just like teachers OldRedneck Jul 2013 #45
Horrible, horrible news MissDeeds Jul 2013 #46
So horrible maddezmom Jul 2013 #47
Shellshocked Franker65 Jul 2013 #48
No words theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #49
This was front page news in Delphinus Jul 2013 #50
We really need to re-evaluate our firefighting procedures NickB79 Jul 2013 #59
Names of the Fallen Ariz. Firefighters Released Jefferson23 Jul 2013 #60
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