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In reply to the discussion: Brotherhood Leader: Egyptian Army 'Worse Than the Jews' [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)31. Oh horse shit. Flagrant, unadulturated horse shit.
Unless you're one of those who is "OK" with supression of women, child marriage, and all the other sick bullshit the MB has no problem with? "Another liberal" indeed....
I can't believe you continue to tout for those misogynistic assholes with a straight face--and that you get away with it here. Just stop defending the indefensible.
http://bulletinoftheoppressionofwomen.com/2013/03/16/gender-equality-is-against-islamic-laws-says-egyptian-muslim-brotherhood/
The upcoming U.N. vote to ratify the declaration titled End Violence against Women has rankled Egypts Muslim Brotherhood, so much so that they released an official statement on their English language website.
They call the declaration euphemistically named.
They say its misleading. They say its deceptive. They say that it will unravel the very fabric of the civilized world a fabric where control, particularly over women, lies firmly in the hands of men.
The rights they dont want to see include:
1. Granting girls full sexual freedom, as well as the freedom to decide their own gender and the gender of their partners (ie, choose to have normal or homosexual relationships), while raising the age of marriage.
2. Providing contraceptives for adolescent girls and training them to use those, while legalizing abortion to get rid of unwanted pregnancies, in the name of sexual and reproductive rights.
3. Granting equal rights to adulterous wives and illegitimate sons resulting from adulterous relationships.
4. Granting equal rights to homosexuals, and providing protection and respect for prostitutes.
5. Giving wives full rights to file legal complaints against husbands accusing them of rape or sexual harassment, obliging competent authorities to deal husbands punishments similar to those prescribed for raping or sexually harassing a stranger.
6. Equal inheritance (between men and women).
7. Replacing guardianship with partnership, and full sharing of roles within the family between men and women such as: spending, child care and home chores.
8. Full equality in marriage legislation such as: allowing Muslim women to marry non-Muslim men, and abolition of polygamy, dowry, men taking charge of family spending, etc.
9. Removing the authority of divorce from husbands and placing it in the hands of judges, and sharing all property after divorce.
10. Cancelling the need for a husbands consent in matters like: travel, work, or use of contraception.
The Brethren care about one thing and one thing only-amassing power. They will step over, beat down and oppress any one they need to in order to achieve that end. You need to grab a clue:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/31/egypt-cairo-women-rights-revolution
How Egypt's radical rulers crush the lives and hopes of women
Women stood shoulder to shoulder with men in Tahrir Square in 2011. Now they are back on the streets, opposing a new constitution that sweeps away their rights and opens the way for girls of 13 to be married. And in Cairo's slums, life grows harder as the gulf between the sexes widens
...Women who stood shoulder to shoulder with men during the 2011 Tahrir Square protests that brought down Hosni Mubarak found their position in society undermined almost immediately. The parliamentary quota for women was removed without debate and a promised female vice-president failed to materialise, amid what political commentator Moushira Khattab called "a radical anti-feminist sentiment". Morsi threatened but stopped short of decriminalising Egypt's practice of female genital mutilation, carried out on almost three-quarters of Egyptian girls, making it clear he would not tackle an issue he called "a family matter".
The new constitution has swept away recognition of women's rights and left the door open to the legalisation of perhaps Egypt's most crippling social issue underage marriage. Draft legislation that would allow the legal age of marriage to be lowered from 18 to 13 has been drawn up while clerics within the Muslim Brotherhood have indicated that marriage at the age of nine for girls is acceptable.
"They see women as, number one, objects of sex and, number two, to clean their floors. This is what the Egyptian 'brotherhood' is all about," said Fatma, 24, an engineering graduate marching with her friends, some in burqas, some in headscarves. The women keep close together, arms linked and eyes alert for the men flying down the side of the demonstration on motorcycles grabbing and screaming at females. "They want to marry us at nine years old. Are these really the kind of men we want to run our country? Paedophiles?"..... "They are like a pack of dogs, tearing out the weakest first, raping and harassing the women and the girls, getting rid of them, and then fighting among themselves to be pack leader," said Aya Kadry, 62.
Around Cairo hundreds of tower blocks are being built, extending the Arab world's largest city leg by leg into the desert. This is where the vast majority of Egypt's women are already living the constrained lives that the educated and middle-classes fear will be imposed by a radical government. Child marriage is common, the norm among the poor. Doctors are bribed to sign documents asserting a 14-year-old is 18 but most people don't have the money so marriages go ahead without registration. Underage girls then have children who, essentially illegal, cannot have their births registered. Without papers those children cannot attend school, encasing a whole new generation in poverty......
Anyone who supports those animals, and does so with a straight face, is sick.
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Now we're starting to see why the Brethren weren't cutting it in the leadership job! nt
MADem
Jul 2013
#2
The MB has done plenty of murdering down the years. Anyone who disagrees with them and their fundy
MADem
Jul 2013
#29
Sigh, indeed--if you support the Brethren, knowing what I've told you about them, we know just what
MADem
Jul 2013
#34
No--I will enjoy the transition to new elections; and the fact that women will be safer at least for
MADem
Jul 2013
#52
You're an expert on pretty dreams, then...? That's my take-away from your comments. nt
MADem
Jul 2013
#58
Well, it wasn't one, so if you take it that way, it does sort of give us an understanding of your
MADem
Jul 2013
#62
Even when we don't like the results, those with the most votes win and govern, right?
another_liberal
Jul 2013
#48
The Germans did vote in greater numbers for the Nazis than any other party running in 1932.
another_liberal
Jul 2013
#60
As far as I can see both sides are murderers, because the MB's hands aren't clean...
fujiyama
Jul 2013
#10