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freshwest

(53,661 posts)
61. Well, all those dead bodies, but at least the Second Amendment survives.
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 04:57 PM
Jul 2013

Honestly, these clowns are using their Constitutional rights to bring down the Constitution itself.

Because with each increasingly outrageous act, people lose respect for the rule of law and will fall prey to demagogues.

Nice job on the behalf of the Koch brothers, Grover Nordquist and the rest. Destabilizing the country from top to bottom and push Civil War. And of course, the free flow of weaponry is required for that.

Defunding public education, but maintaining media monopoly as the fall back agency of educating the public, slashing funds for community programs to help people like this or bring them to account before this happens, and promoting fear and hatred.

Then demonize the police for getting militarized in the face of military grade weaponry, or for shooting this guy, while he was on a rampage with no other way of stopping him but by SWAT.

No peaceful methods were in force that could have staved off this event, in fact the NRA made sure he had the most lethal killing machines without anyone knowing it and no controls.

Koch Khaos wins again. Someone think up another K to go with those two, since it would fit.


No surprise that it's Florida. mlmdu Jul 2013 #1
No surprise the shooting ceonupe Jul 2013 #3
No surprise the shooting ..... rdharma Jul 2013 #6
It's useless gaspee Jul 2013 #7
I know..... but it's fun..... rdharma Jul 2013 #12
There you have the motivation: "It's fun." Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #30
Reason has no chance with the gun huggers.... rdharma Jul 2013 #35
We know your priorities; no need to repeat Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #36
Very correct ceonupe Jul 2013 #8
good guy with a gun vs. bad guy with a gun. . .and your typo Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #11
Yea, we have a right to arm "ourselfs" rightsideout Jul 2013 #15
One particular section of the country... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #52
You can go suck it. n/t Ian David Jul 2013 #13
Your eloquence boggles the mind. nt raccoon Jul 2013 #55
Guns are not tools, Soundman Jul 2013 #17
What's a sledgehammer used for? AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #26
I use them to Soundman Jul 2013 #41
So, would you say it's 'purpose' is based on the intent of the user? AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #43
You're just being billh58 Jul 2013 #48
Guns are tools. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #75
I have never heard of a holster being referred to as a tool belt n/t. Soundman Jul 2013 #77
Neither is a defibrillator stored in a 'tool bag'. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #81
Yep, that's the billh58 Jul 2013 #79
Nobody regards guns as animate objects more than Gun Enthusiasts. Nobody. Paladin Jul 2013 #80
No, I don't hear about home invaders getting killed often. caseymoz Jul 2013 #29
"occasional story of a youth using a firearm to defend them selfs" ---Occasional? Why don't you try wordpix Jul 2013 #82
"occasional story of a youth using a firearm to defend them selfs"---very uninformed. Try wordpix Jul 2013 #83
The state which went for Obama? Twice? Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #28
Way to 'Stand His Ground'. greiner3 Jul 2013 #2
Okay, cue NRA talking points about guns from Gundamentalists in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. . . Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #4
See post #8 for NRA talking points SecularMotion Jul 2013 #10
OMG! "Gundamentalists"! That's EXCELLENT!!! calimary Jul 2013 #18
And shorten it to . . . Brigid Jul 2013 #62
"Gundies!" OMG Brigid!!! calimary Jul 2013 #72
I have my moments. Brigid Jul 2013 #73
How about the badge sniffers.......... Historic NY Jul 2013 #23
Yep. it is. to anyone who thinks police can do no wrong. your point? Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #71
Well, all those dead bodies, but at least the Second Amendment survives. freshwest Jul 2013 #61
Well I am not a gundamentalist Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #76
They don't call it FloriDUH for nuttin'!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2013 #5
Shooter exonerated post-mortem because he was "Standing-His-Ground" Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #9
if he killed black people, then SYG. If he killed white people, 1st degree murder Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #16
I lived in Hialeah many years ago and hated it RebelOne Jul 2013 #14
More GUNS! Ohio Joe Jul 2013 #19
more difficult to adopt a cat or dog there riverbendviewgal Jul 2013 #20
Any Constitutional experts here? Helen Borg Jul 2013 #21
Yes, but the gun-crazies don't want to hear that. Aristus Jul 2013 #24
Not according to the Supreme Court via Heller and McDonald. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #27
Who over the last three terms caseymoz Jul 2013 #32
The five RW stooges of the SCOTUS: Scalia, Roberts, Kennedy, Thomas, Alito rdharma Jul 2013 #39
Wrong. NutmegYankee Jul 2013 #56
Nah... GlashFordan Jul 2013 #59
The Democratic party platform says otherwise hack89 Jul 2013 #64
Where was George Zimmerman? OldRedneck Jul 2013 #22
He can't be everywhere. Pterodactyl Jul 2013 #31
Actually, it might be a new meme caseymoz Jul 2013 #33
The Adventures of Zimmerman!!!!! rdharma Jul 2013 #37
Fatter than the Goodyear blimp, dumber than six boxes of rocks Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #78
yay, guns! KG Jul 2013 #25
meanwhile, in Florida... Blue Palasky Jul 2013 #34
Gungeoneers defending billh58 Jul 2013 #38
You seem to be very confident that you will be able to pass draconian gun laws. ... spin Jul 2013 #47
This is not the past, billh58 Jul 2013 #49
I think that the laws you dream of will eventually pass. ... spin Jul 2013 #51
"Just you wait" has been the gun control motto for decades. hack89 Jul 2013 #65
Uncle Wayne and billh58 Jul 2013 #66
It is a harsh reality hack89 Jul 2013 #67
Spoken like a true billh58 Jul 2013 #68
+1. Thanks. (nt) Paladin Jul 2013 #69
We will see. hack89 Jul 2013 #74
I feel good about this, knowing that this man's and my own Crunchy Frog Jul 2013 #40
Hey Wayne are you watching ? olddots Jul 2013 #42
If only it had been raining guns, this never would have happened. Gungeoneer logic. nt valerief Jul 2013 #44
Hialeah is not a " quiet neighbourhood" darkangel218 Jul 2013 #45
I have lived in Hialeah too and the crime is not as bad as Liberty City. RebelOne Jul 2013 #53
The Triangle area of Opa Locka is aweful. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #54
Well, it wasn't when I lived there. I don't know about the present. n/t RebelOne Jul 2013 #58
gun stooges sigmasix Jul 2013 #46
Lemme guess... PatrynXX Jul 2013 #50
Another extrajudicial killing of an American citizen geek tragedy Jul 2013 #57
Another day in a Turbineguy Jul 2013 #60
God, how I love living in a society full of . . . Brigid Jul 2013 #63
A look at the victims in the Hialeah killings Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #70
so very sad... Blue_Tires Jul 2013 #84
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