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inch4progress

(270 posts)
41. The hypocrisy that I see isn't the same that you see.
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 01:00 PM
Sep 2013

The hypocrisy is having an expectation to enjoy a safe and secure America without A STRONG SECURITY APARATUS while such things exist as Chinese and Russian government sponsored hackers ATTACKING the US and its citizens, victims of war crimes who want to blow us up BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE ALWAYS PUSHING FOR WAR WAR WAR, MILLIONS OF ANTI-GOVERNMENT LIBERTARIANS WHO ARE ARMED TO THE TEETH, and Mexican drug gangs that have already killed thousands of people including U.S. federal agents etc etc etc.

You have to realize this isn't the America of yesterday when finding pedophiles meant years and years of undercover work. NOW YOU CAN FIND PEDOPHILES BY FOLLOWING THEIR INTERNET TRACKS. GOOD, our kids will be safer for it. Criminals and terrorists are using the internet to commit crimes! Shouldn't the internet be utilized to CATCH THESE CRIMINALS? If you don't think so I don't think we are ever going to agree on anything!

If you "didn't notice" the hypocrisy exposed in post #22 you are either incapable of rational thought, a myopic ideologue, both, and/or a paid shill for the PTB.


Explain the hypocrisy to me? WHY SHOULDN'T OUR SECURITY APPARATUS HAVE TIES TO THE WHITE HOUSE. I want it to have ties to the white house. IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR IT NOT TO HAVE TIES TO THE WHITE HOUSE! Obama is our President, I want him fully aware and connected to our SECURITY! That's part of his JOB!

Wow! That sounds like an introduction to NSA 101. Your knee-jerk rhetoric betrays your liberal disguise.

You forgot to mention the part about being "in a post 9/11 world." Oh, I see -- it's now a "violent and deeply fractured world." Nice try whoever you are, but your agenda here is clearly not as simple as you'd have one believe.


Knee-jerk rhetoric? Post 9-11 world? We are in a post 9-11 world. THERE ARE A LOTTTTTTTTTTTT OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN TO SEE OUR COUNTRY COLLAPSE INTO UTTER CHAOS.

I love my country! I love my President, but I'm not an idealist. I'm a realist. ITS A REALITY THAT TERRORISTS ARE USING THE INTERNET TO RECRUIT INSIDE AMERICA. I would rather have the NSA catch my uber libertarian, Government hating, liberal hating, HOMOSEXUAL hating neigbor BEFORE HE BLOWS UP A SCHOOL OR A WELFARE OFFICE.

Stop the paranoia and shut the whole corrupt agency down. RC Sep 2013 #1
I'm sure they have a private company or three that oversee's their work. nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #3
+1. I don't need to pay people to spy on me. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #29
There has to be a balance as well as an open conversation. inch4progress Sep 2013 #2
There was a balance Hydra Sep 2013 #6
I completely understand your anger, and feel it myself inch4progress Sep 2013 #8
May I remind you... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #9
Which is where the balance comes in. I have no liberty if I'm the victim of a terror attack, inch4progress Sep 2013 #10
The NSA is committing crimes. I don't care what the Supreme Court excuses with tricky JDPriestly Sep 2013 #13
Well said. Indi Guy Sep 2013 #28
YEP drynberg Sep 2013 #36
As Hydra points out in post #11... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #14
No offense, but the gov't is unwilling to protect you Hydra Sep 2013 #11
Then why would Obama mention such inflamatory things on television like..... inch4progress Sep 2013 #12
Leaders can "mention" anything, all day - every day... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #15
Yes, and if they have an agenda they would "mention" things to convince us inch4progress Sep 2013 #16
You don't have to assume anything. You can look at his actions. n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #19
His actions? He tried to appoint Warren and some other EXTREME LIBERALS! inch4progress Sep 2013 #20
You say, "I have to assume that Obama's agenda HAS MY INTERESTS AT HEART!"... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #22
Well you didn't address any of his LIBERAL APPOINTEES, EFFORTS TO RAISE TAXES ON UBER WEALTHY, inch4progress Sep 2013 #23
With respect... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #24
I didn't notice hypocrisy. People expect every aspect of our national security to be inch4progress Sep 2013 #27
OK - One more response to you... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #40
The hypocrisy that I see isn't the same that you see. inch4progress Sep 2013 #41
In other words... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #42
Essential liberty? I don't know what liberty I'm giving up? inch4progress Sep 2013 #43
Can we agree that our spooks should obey the law? Indi Guy Sep 2013 #44
I definitely agree.The laws need to be followed, by EVERYONE. inch4progress Sep 2013 #45
Well now I'm confused. Indi Guy Sep 2013 #46
It can be amended, and the constitution allows inch4progress Sep 2013 #47
Bypassing the Constitution is not the same as amending it, furthermore when every President Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #54
We have the patriot act which has withstood the constitutional courts inch4progress Sep 2013 #55
I was responding to your assertion that they just bypass the Constitution. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #56
What. The congress is bought our soldiers would never inch4progress Sep 2013 #57
The only people that lost faith in the Constitution were the slaveholders. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #58
If they keep their "core beliefs" they might as well write their epitaph now. inch4progress Sep 2013 #60
Abolitionism was an "ideal" which had its' roots in the 16th century and was gaining strength Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #61
Jefferson was a very intelligent Humanist, Glad you mentioned him:) inch4progress Sep 2013 #63
I agree with much of what you posted, however I see the U.S. and for that matter the world entering Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #64
Most of Obama's appointees are Republicans and corporate lobbyists. n/t cprise Sep 2013 #32
BAh, He attempted to appoint leftists.............Republicans would only allow corporate stooges. inch4progress Sep 2013 #34
Those are good questions Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #65
The NSA is the threat we are facing. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #30
You aren't concerned about radicalized armed Libertarians? Al quaeda? inch4progress Sep 2013 #50
Oh no, I'd feel so vulnerable if the NSA stopped! JackRiddler Sep 2013 #48
I don't really believe that terrorism is a racket, uh, at least not a government fear scheme inch4progress Sep 2013 #49
Thank you. Indi Guy Sep 2013 #52
'The NSA only found out about the misconduct after the employee confessed' jsr Sep 2013 #4
I'm sure the stalker had permission from FISA court. Vanje Sep 2013 #7
Yeah, real super sleuths, these guys, LOL grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #31
that's the crux of it Supersedeas Sep 2013 #62
The NSA is a blight to citizen's security. Vanje Sep 2013 #5
Your tax dollars at work. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #17
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #18
Gotta wonder... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #25
That's a good question. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #53
they only report abuses by EMPLOYEES of NSA here grasswire Sep 2013 #21
Good catch. Indi Guy Sep 2013 #37
Our heroes! Ash_F Sep 2013 #26
Well, I do believe this sentence needs to be repeated for the lie it is: tavalon Sep 2013 #33
Ignorance of the law is no excuse, and THE CONSTITUTION IS THE LAW!... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #59
I remember reports of 'email hackings' of our top Gov. officials. Are some of these 1000s of NSA... Sunlei Sep 2013 #35
..this is probably a tiny fraction of what's going on..... Sancho Sep 2013 #38
There goes the "If you're not doing anything wrong" argument. CrispyQ Sep 2013 #39
Is it any surprise that scum who manipulate politics, manipulate their own relationships? Ash_F Sep 2013 #51
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