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51. Is it any surprise that scum who manipulate politics, manipulate their own relationships?

Reply to Indi Guy (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 08:54 PM

Sep 2013

"Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus"

Liars, cheats and scoundrels.

Bad people, through and through.

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NSA Employee Spied on Nine Women Without Detection, Internal File Shows... [View all] Indi Guy Sep 2013 OP

Stop the paranoia and shut the whole corrupt agency down. RC Sep 2013 #1

I'm sure they have a private company or three that oversee's their work. nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #3

+1. I don't need to pay people to spy on me. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #29

There has to be a balance as well as an open conversation. inch4progress Sep 2013 #2

There was a balance Hydra Sep 2013 #6

I completely understand your anger, and feel it myself inch4progress Sep 2013 #8

May I remind you... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #9

Which is where the balance comes in. I have no liberty if I'm the victim of a terror attack, inch4progress Sep 2013 #10

The NSA is committing crimes. I don't care what the Supreme Court excuses with tricky JDPriestly Sep 2013 #13

Well said. Indi Guy Sep 2013 #28

YEP drynberg Sep 2013 #36

As Hydra points out in post #11... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #14

No offense, but the gov't is unwilling to protect you Hydra Sep 2013 #11

Then why would Obama mention such inflamatory things on television like..... inch4progress Sep 2013 #12

Leaders can "mention" anything, all day - every day... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #15

Yes, and if they have an agenda they would "mention" things to convince us inch4progress Sep 2013 #16

You don't have to assume anything. You can look at his actions. n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #19

His actions? He tried to appoint Warren and some other EXTREME LIBERALS! inch4progress Sep 2013 #20

You say, "I have to assume that Obama's agenda HAS MY INTERESTS AT HEART!"... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #22

Well you didn't address any of his LIBERAL APPOINTEES, EFFORTS TO RAISE TAXES ON UBER WEALTHY, inch4progress Sep 2013 #23

With respect... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #24

I didn't notice hypocrisy. People expect every aspect of our national security to be inch4progress Sep 2013 #27

OK - One more response to you... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #40

The hypocrisy that I see isn't the same that you see. inch4progress Sep 2013 #41

In other words... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #42

Essential liberty? I don't know what liberty I'm giving up? inch4progress Sep 2013 #43

Can we agree that our spooks should obey the law? Indi Guy Sep 2013 #44

I definitely agree.The laws need to be followed, by EVERYONE. inch4progress Sep 2013 #45

Well now I'm confused. Indi Guy Sep 2013 #46

It can be amended, and the constitution allows inch4progress Sep 2013 #47

Bypassing the Constitution is not the same as amending it, furthermore when every President Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #54

We have the patriot act which has withstood the constitutional courts inch4progress Sep 2013 #55

I was responding to your assertion that they just bypass the Constitution. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #56

What. The congress is bought our soldiers would never inch4progress Sep 2013 #57

The only people that lost faith in the Constitution were the slaveholders. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #58

If they keep their "core beliefs" they might as well write their epitaph now. inch4progress Sep 2013 #60

Abolitionism was an "ideal" which had its' roots in the 16th century and was gaining strength Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #61

Jefferson was a very intelligent Humanist, Glad you mentioned him:) inch4progress Sep 2013 #63

I agree with much of what you posted, however I see the U.S. and for that matter the world entering Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #64

Most of Obama's appointees are Republicans and corporate lobbyists. n/t cprise Sep 2013 #32

BAh, He attempted to appoint leftists.............Republicans would only allow corporate stooges. inch4progress Sep 2013 #34

Those are good questions Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #65

The NSA is the threat we are facing. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #30

You aren't concerned about radicalized armed Libertarians? Al quaeda? inch4progress Sep 2013 #50

Oh no, I'd feel so vulnerable if the NSA stopped! JackRiddler Sep 2013 #48

I don't really believe that terrorism is a racket, uh, at least not a government fear scheme inch4progress Sep 2013 #49

Thank you. Indi Guy Sep 2013 #52

'The NSA only found out about the misconduct after the employee confessed' jsr Sep 2013 #4

I'm sure the stalker had permission from FISA court. Vanje Sep 2013 #7

Yeah, real super sleuths, these guys, LOL grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #31

that's the crux of it Supersedeas Sep 2013 #62

The NSA is a blight to citizen's security. Vanje Sep 2013 #5

Your tax dollars at work. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #17

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #18

Gotta wonder... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #25

That's a good question. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #53

they only report abuses by EMPLOYEES of NSA here grasswire Sep 2013 #21

Good catch. Indi Guy Sep 2013 #37

Our heroes! Ash_F Sep 2013 #26

Well, I do believe this sentence needs to be repeated for the lie it is: tavalon Sep 2013 #33

Ignorance of the law is no excuse, and THE CONSTITUTION IS THE LAW!... Indi Guy Sep 2013 #59

I remember reports of 'email hackings' of our top Gov. officials. Are some of these 1000s of NSA... Sunlei Sep 2013 #35

..this is probably a tiny fraction of what's going on..... Sancho Sep 2013 #38

There goes the "If you're not doing anything wrong" argument. CrispyQ Sep 2013 #39

Is it any surprise that scum who manipulate politics, manipulate their own relationships? Ash_F Sep 2013 #51