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63. Jefferson was a very intelligent Humanist, Glad you mentioned him:)

Yes Nixon was an asshole, but do you honestly believe other assholes aren't going to come along in the future?

The message I was implying with Kent State is that government in one form or another can most certainly fire on its' own citizens as just one tool in the box along with other retaliatory measures.

Absolutely. And there will be other assholes, but with the internet today, it's very very very hard for them to hide their nefarious actions.

A mass surveillance state as is being put in place now, makes those retaliatory measures; both overt and covert, all the easier to accomplish and get away with, while also increasing the damage potential.

Furthermore while I do believe a majority of the American People support gun control measures, I don't believe its' even close to 80% that support getting rid of the 2nd Amendment.

There are various reasons I support extreme surveillance today.

1. We are experiencing a cultural decline, similar to what Rome went through. Its a very real possibility that people who support such movements proposed by Sovereign citizens, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, Michael Savage, Judge Napolitano etc will attempt a violent revolt. The message these groups are spreading are even beginning to taint the minds of Liberals, which really freaks me out big time.

2. Should republicans continue their obstructive terror tactics and attempts to dismantle the government, and Democrats do not grab them by the nuts, there is a very real chance of a military coup. I DON'T CARE IF THE LEADERS OF SUCH A COUP SAY THEY HAVE LIBERAL OR LIBERATING INTENTIONS, although the likelihood of that is very low, coups are always bloody, authoritarian with one groups more than any other receiving the blunt force of the attacks(creating scapegoats and genocide occurs more often during coups than not). Under no circumstance would I remain in this country should a coup take place, ABSOLUTELY NONE!

3. Ignorance and violence are sensationalized to such a degree there is no way to prevent this nastiness from influencing the youth. Desensitization and dissociation are very real, proven psychological syndromes. I don't care how much research shows video games are safe or violent movies have little effect on the sensitization. ANYTHING THAT CONTRADICTS OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OF PROVEN RESEARCH INTO THESE PSYCHOLOGICAL PHENOMENONS IS CORPORATE SPONSORED RUBBISH, and should be taken with a grain of salt. If the imagery and games become more violent, so will the crime, and it will occur more often, and in more places. There is no denying that we are seeing this today, if this wasn't so WHY DOES THE MILITARY POUR HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS INTO PUSHING VIOLENT GAMES INTO THE HANDS OF IMPRESSIONABLE YOUTH?

“We did a comprehensive review of every experimental study, reviewing 381 effects from studies involving 130,000 people, and results show that playing violent video games increases aggressive thoughts, angry feelings, and physiological arousal,” says Brad Bushman, a psychologist at Ohio State University who is one of the best-known proponents of the idea that first-person shooters influence real-world violence.

To Bushman, video games aren’t likely to be the sole source of violence, but an amplifier. Indeed, if game-players, especially game-playing children, really do become more aggressive, Bushman is almost certainly right. It’s well known that aggressive children are more likely to become violent adults. Yet the studies that Bushman and colleagues cite tend not to answer a key question: Does game-induced aggressiveness persist? Does it become a hard-wired way of being in the world, or does it dissipate in a few minutes or hours?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/what-science-knows-about-video-games-and-violence/

There are also more formal offerings from the world's leading powers. America's Army, a free online simulator, was published by the US military in 2002 to aid recruitment. The British army launched their online game Start Thinking Soldier in 2009, to drive interest among 16- to 24-year-olds. Then in May last year, China's People's Liberation Army unveiled Glorious Revolution, a Call of Duty-style game for both military and domestic markets.

This is all in addition to numerous game-like training tools, from language apps through to tank-driving tutorials, which are used to educate recruits around the globe.

"For decades the military has been using video-game technology," says Nina Huntemann, associate professor of communication and journalism at Suffolk University in Boston and a computer games specialist. "Every branch of the US armed forces and many, many police departments are using retooled video games to train their personnel."

Like much of early computing, nascent digital gaming benefited from military spending. The prototype for the first home video games console, the 1972 Magnavox Odyssey, was developed by Sanders Associates, a US defence contractor. Meanwhile, pre-digital electronic flight simulators, for use in both military and civilian training, date back to at least the second world war.

Later, the games industry began to repay its debts. Many insiders note how instruments in British Challenger 2 tanks, introduced in 1994, look uncannily like the PlayStation's controllers, one of the most popular consoles of that year. Indeed, warfare's use of digital war games soared towards the end of the 20th century.

"By the late 1990s," says Nick Turse, an American journalist, historian and author of The Complex: How the Military Invades Our Everyday Lives, "the [US] army was pouring tens of millions of dollars into a centre at the University of Southern California – the Institute of Creative Technologies – specifically to build partnerships with the gaming industry and Hollywood."

It's a toxic relationship in Turse's opinion, since gaming leads to a reliance on remote-controlled warfare, and this in turn makes combat more palatable.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/mar/18/video-games-propaganda-tools-military

America is in for a rude awakening. There may not be 80% support now, but give it a few years and I guarantee there will be support exceeding this, and not just for gun control but for an outright gun ban. Once more people are scared to go about their normal lives, shopping, going to movies, fairs etc they will want to ameliorate that fear, and a gun ban will largely accomplish that.

I think you misunderstand my views and intentions as concerns the constitution. I do not support any forceful usurpation of constitutional rights. Rather, one day the people will find much of the enumerated rights unnecessary, and find others outrightly counter-productive.

"Politics was good a hundred years ago. Today, politicians have no ability to solve any problems because they are not students of behavior. They are not students of agriculture, oceanography, they know nothing about the factors that operate the world. So, they say things that people like to hear. And that gets them elected. Now scientists on the other hand are not concerned with public approval. What they do, even if everybody on earth believe the earth was flat, they would say: 'You're wrong, this is the evidence we have to support the fact that the earth is round' but they don't say: 'it's a little round and a little flat' - that's politicians." ~ Jacque Fresco

Whenever you make a law, "Thou Shalt Not Kill," some jackass thinks that by making a law, you can control human behavior. Conditions that exist control human behavior, not the laws. ~ Jacque Fresco, TVP Teamspeak3 seminar, October 2nd 2011

"Crime is based upon need, making money. People sell drugs to make money. But if everybody is cared for, they don't sell drugs and if there's no money you can't sell drugs even if you wanted to. There'd be no such thing as gambling, prostitution, or selling out, or paying off a senator or a governor. There are no senators, there are no governors so you can't pay them off. If you take away the basis or the condition that generate abhorrent behavior, you don't have abhorrent behavior." ~ Jacque Fresco, TVP Teamspeak3 seminar, October 2nd 2011

Laws really don't do anything but allow you to punish people, essentially, because society is not filling their needs. Remove the need to commit crime, poverty, provide healthcare, resources, hunger etc. and you will not need laws.

Instead of setting a speed limit, make cars that drive themselves and aren't able to exceed the speed limit. Paraphrase from paradise or oblivion.

Please give it a watch, it is worth it. I really feel like I may be giving you the impression that I DESIRE an authoritarian government and a police state. No, I think both of these may be necessary to control the horror that results from a crumbling educational system,poverty, hunger, xenophobia etc. Honestly if the choice is between a surveillance states and anarchical chaos, I would choose a surveillance state. ITS NOT MY DESIRE, BUT IT MAY BE NECESSARY TO CONTAIN THE HORROR THAT CAPITALISM AND POVERTY ARE RELEASING UPON THE PLANET!

If you have the impression that this is what I desire, please read "The age of American Unreason" by Susan Jacoby. I hate HATE HATE WHAT has become of the America that corporatist republicans and their donors have given us, but I'm a realist, and I don't want to suffer under a revolution or coup. I can't, I refuse to. I will continue to support the right of our government to make sure they can digitally supervise the net for signs of radicalism and violent revolutionary ideologies, simultaneously I will flood every corner of the internet with the Humanist message, one of peace, unity and scientific ascension of mankind. I will do this because I feel that I have to, and I DON'T WANT ANY CHILD, ANY WOMEN OR MAN, TO EXPERIENCE THE HORRORS THAT I DID AS A CHILD. I know victimization breeds victimization, and i don't blame the victims OR THE VICTIMIZERS. Its human nature to repeat, and I have accepted that. It took me SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LONG TO TURN MY HATRED FOR ALPHA MALES INTO PITY. So this is where I am now, maybe my sentiment will change in the future, I don't know. But I have to say what I feel is true and in our best interest. I guess I feel that if you feel you can change things for the better YOU HAVE A DUTY TO SPREAD THAT MESSAGE. Not spreading the message I know to be true is tantamount to spreading a message of obstructiveness and hate AND I REFUSE TO DO THAT!

It's what occurs after this that I look forward to, not the now, but the results of the lessons we learn from the horrors we are seeing now. The fruition of those lessons will be a truly beautiful philosophy of peace and brotherly love.