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JackRiddler

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36. Let's be clear, it's not policy, it's a criminal case.
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:18 PM
Sep 2013

And a long overdue one. Of course it is also policy in the sense that the N.D. government is playing it as a shift to grab the center while reabsorbing the G.D. vote.

You are consistently missing what happened, however, when you write: "The government moved on them after the murder because it was politically convenient, not because they give a damn." I don't agree at all. I refuse to downplay the role of the people. The government was forced by the popular response and the revelations to act. The latter provided the evidence of a criminal organization engaged in multiple assaults and killings.

That is what made it "politically convenient." It could have brought them down, in combination with the rest of the Greek situation. This government has been unstable during its entire tenure, just like the last two Greek governments. (They lost one junior partner in June and barely have a majority, with PASOK possibly in its final death throes.)

Of course the government doesn't give a damn! This is a victory of the people. Forced to act, the government is now claiming full ownership of it as policy, acting with vigor and playing the game to their advantage without scruples. This is to be expected from a fairly canny and authoritarian government that was already playing political "shock and awe" in their other policies (immigrant concentration camps, ERT shutdown, forced-work orders on strikers, arrests of journalists demanding their sources, etc.).

My "approval of the arrests" does not rest on the idea that justice will be done. It may not be, unfortunately. The arrests were something that should have started happening several murders ago. These are not just scumbags with an ugly line, they were planning and executing murders on the street.

It's always nice Berlin Expat Sep 2013 #1
glad to see it. ellenrr Sep 2013 #2
Under the Greek Berlin Expat Sep 2013 #3
so this might be the real thing--could you share some sources with me - ellenrr Sep 2013 #4
I've been Berlin Expat Sep 2013 #5
thanks a lot. the 1st one is new to me, i'll check it. I used to follow Twitter, ellenrr Sep 2013 #8
I also looked Berlin Expat Sep 2013 #7
Going after Golden Dawn members or sympathizers in the Greek military and police forces Tidy Cat Sep 2013 #28
I agree that Berlin Expat Sep 2013 #30
Hopefully they round up the rest of the Neo-Nazi's inch4progress Sep 2013 #6
so do we. :) ellenrr Sep 2013 #9
Definitely! inch4progress Sep 2013 #14
The only fly in this ointment...... socialist_n_TN Sep 2013 #12
For the time being I choose to believe that it has to do with the violent negative media converage inch4progress Sep 2013 #13
A couple of days ago Berlin Expat Sep 2013 #15
I've got some reading to do over breakfast it seems. I knew about the call for a coup inch4progress Sep 2013 #16
Well, this Berlin Expat Sep 2013 #18
Ok, I definitely see both of your points, they're valid and most likely right, inch4progress Sep 2013 #19
Golden Dawn Berlin Expat Sep 2013 #20
Naturally. Well there it is in a nutshell. inch4progress Sep 2013 #22
And don't forget that Greece has had some experience on the receiving end of Nazis in the past Posteritatis Sep 2013 #17
Score one for the people and the return of sanity. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #10
Far from a return to sanity. Very far. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #33
This is good news Harmony Blue Sep 2013 #11
good news! Sunlei Sep 2013 #21
I'm disturbed MFrohike Sep 2013 #23
Your concerns about the government crackdown are valid... JackRiddler Sep 2013 #27
I doubt it MFrohike Sep 2013 #31
They are "going after GD thugs who commit crimes." JackRiddler Sep 2013 #32
We'll see MFrohike Sep 2013 #35
Let's be clear, it's not policy, it's a criminal case. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #36
BBC video report: Golden Dawn supporters rally following arrests pampango Sep 2013 #24
Sic some riot police on them ButterflyBlood Sep 2013 #25
Yeah, but WHICH jack booted thugs?....... socialist_n_TN Sep 2013 #26
Riot police voted 50% for Golden Dawn. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #37
I hate nazi's and everything they stand for. Tidy Cat Sep 2013 #29
The only reason GD even came to get seats Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #34
Guardian: Golden Dawn leader's wife spits at reporter - video pampango Oct 2013 #38
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