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Omaha Steve

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Mon Nov 11, 2013, 09:10 PM Nov 2013

Experts: Man, nature share typhoon tragedy blame [View all]

Source: AP-Excite

By SETH BORENSTEIN

WASHINGTON (AP) - Nature and man together cooked up the disaster in the Philippines.

Geography, meteorology, poverty, shoddy construction, a booming population, and, to a much lesser degree, climate change combine to make the Philippines the nation most vulnerable to killer typhoons, according to several scientific studies.

And Typhoon Haiyan was one mighty storm.

Haiyan slammed the island nation with a storm surge two stories high and some of the highest winds ever measured in a tropical cyclone - 195 mph as clocked by U.S. satellites, or 147 mph based on local reports. An untold number of homes were blown away, and thousands of people are feared dead.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20131112/DAA0N4NG1.html





Survivors move past the damage caused by Typhoon Haiyan in Tacloban city, Leyte province, central Philippines on Monday, Nov. 11, 2013. The typhoon-ravaged Philippine islands faced an unimaginably huge relief effort that had barely begun Monday, as bloated bodies lay uncollected and uncounted in the streets and survivors pleaded for food, water and medicine. (AP Photo/Aaron Favila)


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I think the AP is wrong in saying climate change is responsible "to a much lesser degree" Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #1
The AP threw those words in to prevent thousand of teabaggers from foaming at the mouth Snake Plissken Nov 2013 #2
No, and in fact, it'd be the opposite. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #7
So do you believe all the climate scientists who say climate change is a serious issue are "nutty"? Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #11
Absolutely not, and in fact, you *completely* missed the point I was trying to make. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #13
Where did I pin every storm on climate change? Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #16
I didn't say that *YOU* did that. I merely said that it has been done before. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #19
I read your post just fine, here is what you said... Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #20
I admit that some parts were poorly written but it didn't change the intent of said statement...... AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #21
So who blames climate change for every storm? Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #22
To get into that would require hours of Googling and such. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #25
If a significant number of people made such a claim it would not take hours of Googling Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #31
No, not really. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #6
What evidence do you have to show that? Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #10
It's where all the available evidence points right now. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #14
That is absolutely false, there is much scientific evidence that shows climate change is serious Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #15
You *completely* missed my point, AGAIN. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #17
You are missing my point completely Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #18
"My comprehension is fine," Are you sure? AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #23
Maybe you need reading comprehension because it was the AP who made the conclusive statement Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #28
No, the science DOES link these huge storms to climate change. rosesaylavee Nov 2013 #24
"climate change is happening and it is human caused." OK, and nobody's argued otherwise. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #27
Well, actually, I very much disagree... rosesaylavee Nov 2013 #29
No worries, I don't feel foolish. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #32
Is there conclusive evidence that says it was a much smaller factor? Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #30
Some of us choose to live in known dangerous places. ConcernedCanuk Nov 2013 #3
God thats a stupid statment. New Orleans BECAUSE of geography is a vital shipping port Katashi_itto Nov 2013 #4
Tragic for sure. Even so..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #5
They can't conclusively say that climate change is only responsible to a "much lesser extent" either Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #12
Are there prehistoric data points for typhoons, like some claim for hurricanes in Florida? jakeXT Nov 2013 #8
Yes, there is data for the increasing size of these storms rosesaylavee Nov 2013 #26
Good lord yes, this WAS due to Climate Change rosesaylavee Nov 2013 #9
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