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In reply to the discussion: US secretly created 'Cuban Twitter' to stir unrest [View all]Zorra
(27,670 posts)75. No, Cuba is no more a real democracy than the US is.
I would definitely not support the US government having absolute control over the media, but the US is already totally under the control of the 1%, so there would be no sense in it.
Comparing the situation in the US to Cuba is incredibly provincial
In Cuba, they are struggling to remain sovereign, and free from the rule of the 1%
At the beginning of 1959 United States companies owned about 40 percent of the Cuban sugar landsalmost all the cattle ranches90 percent of the mines and mineral concessions80 percent of the utilitiespractically all the oil industryand supplied two-thirds of Cuba's imports. ~ John F. Kennedy
"I believe that there is no country in the world including any and all the countries under colonial domination, where economic colonization, humiliation and exploitation were worse than in Cuba, in part owing to my country's policies during the Batista regime. I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will even go further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. That is perfectly clear." U.S. President John F. Kennedy, 1963
Here's what Cuba was like the last time the 1% had complete control over it, and this is what Cubans have been protecting themselves from for 55 years:
Back in power, Batista suspended the 1940 Constitution and revoked most political liberties, including the right to strike. He then aligned with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy that widened the gap between rich and poor Cubans.[7] Batista's increasingly corrupt and repressive government then began to systematically profit from the exploitation of Cuba's commercial interests, by negotiating lucrative relationships with the American mafia, who controlled the drug, gambling, and prostitution businesses in Havana, and with large multinational American corporations that had invested considerable amounts of money in Cuba.[7][8] To quell the growing discontent amongst the populacewhich was subsequently displayed through frequent student riots and demonstrationsBatista established tighter censorship of the media, while also utilizing his anti-Communist secret police to carry out wide-scale violence, torture and public executions; ultimately killing anywhere from 1,000 to 20,000 people.[9][10] For several years until 1959, the Batista government received financial, military, and logistical support from the United States.[11]
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In a bid to profit from such an environment, Batista established lasting relationships with organized crime, notably with American mobsters Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano, and under his rule Havana became known as "the Latin Las Vegas."[41] Batista and Lansky formed a friendship and business relationship that flourished for a decade. During a stay at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York in the late 1940s, it was mutually agreed that, in return for kickbacks, Batista would give Lansky and the Mafia control of Havana's racetracks and casinos.[42]
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In a manner that antagonized the Cuban people, the U.S. government used its influence to advance the interests of and increase the profits of the private American companies, which "dominated the island's economy."[37] As a symbol of this relationship, ITT Corporation, an American-owned multinational telephone company, presented Batista with a Golden Telephone, as an "expression of gratitude" for the "excessive telephone rate increase" that Batista granted at the urging of the U.S. government.[37]
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The United States supplied Batista with planes, ships, tanks, and the latest technology, such as napalm, which he used against the insurgency. However, in March 1958, the U.S. announced it would stop selling arms to the Cuban government.[64] Soon after, the U.S. imposed an arms embargo, further weakening the government's position,[65] although land owners and others who benefited from the government continued to support Batista.[26]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista
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In a bid to profit from such an environment, Batista established lasting relationships with organized crime, notably with American mobsters Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano, and under his rule Havana became known as "the Latin Las Vegas."[41] Batista and Lansky formed a friendship and business relationship that flourished for a decade. During a stay at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York in the late 1940s, it was mutually agreed that, in return for kickbacks, Batista would give Lansky and the Mafia control of Havana's racetracks and casinos.[42]
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In a manner that antagonized the Cuban people, the U.S. government used its influence to advance the interests of and increase the profits of the private American companies, which "dominated the island's economy."[37] As a symbol of this relationship, ITT Corporation, an American-owned multinational telephone company, presented Batista with a Golden Telephone, as an "expression of gratitude" for the "excessive telephone rate increase" that Batista granted at the urging of the U.S. government.[37]
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The United States supplied Batista with planes, ships, tanks, and the latest technology, such as napalm, which he used against the insurgency. However, in March 1958, the U.S. announced it would stop selling arms to the Cuban government.[64] Soon after, the U.S. imposed an arms embargo, further weakening the government's position,[65] although land owners and others who benefited from the government continued to support Batista.[26]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista
I can't understand why some people here, on other progressive sites, and the MSM, are so adamant about interfering with, and, I believe if the truth were expressed, overthrowing, the sovereign governments of Venezuela and Cuba, socialist countries that are not under the control of the 1%, but don't advocate for interfering with the far more brutal and restrictive regimes of 1% owned countries such as Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Uganda, etc.
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It's a shame the countries like the US allow things like twitter and facebook
penultimate
Apr 2014
#37
Yes, how dare people communicate freely using 140 characters or less--it could lead to
MADem
Apr 2014
#81
I'm stunned AP actually ran this story! They have been covering UP information like this for years.
Judi Lynn
Apr 2014
#3
I dunno. Why can't I head down to the airport and fly to Cuba for cheap medical care?
Zorra
Apr 2014
#43
A condition of entry is that you have health insurance for the duration of stay.
dipsydoodle
Apr 2014
#98
I think opening up travel/trade restrictions would go a long way towards building trust.
Ash_F
Apr 2014
#56
If only Alexander the Great had Twitter, think of what he could have accomplished!
FSogol
Apr 2014
#31
I really can't find a problem with attempting to open communications in a society.
DebJ
Apr 2014
#14
Yes, and the CIA enjoyed collecting all their private info and communication.
Daniel537
Apr 2014
#24
Our own Twitter stuff is observed, no doubt. Evil thing. We should immediately stop
DebJ
Apr 2014
#22
O course you left out the part where it said congressional investigators reviewed the program:
okaawhatever
Apr 2014
#42
Good point! Recalls changing SOA (school of assassins, er, the Americas) to WHISC
Judi Lynn
Apr 2014
#58
OMG. Argh. I was thinking, after seeing your earlier excerpt that the books to Afghanistan
Judi Lynn
Apr 2014
#60
USAID is used as a CIA cover so frequently I'm amazed anybody allows them inside their borders.
LeftyMom
Apr 2014
#72
Been trying to own Cuba for over 100 years. No respect for the people who live there. n/t
Judi Lynn
Apr 2014
#61
Why don't the Cubans simply elect a government that permits the real Twitter?
Nye Bevan
Apr 2014
#74
Pathetic, isn't it? They even found a Republican who disapproves of this. Thanks. n/t
Judi Lynn
Apr 2014
#82
Good for Sra. Vidal. The US has been trying to control Cuba longer than she has lived.
Judi Lynn
Apr 2014
#97