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seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
75. Thanks very much.
Tue May 6, 2014, 08:45 PM
May 2014

I wasn't overly impressed with the "plan", tho. It looks too much like the shovel-ready stuff, basically instead of directing where we as a nation need to go and then usingthe power of gov't spending and contracts to force it, it turns much of the implementation to the local gov'ts. Since more than half the states are in denial because they are under control of the conservatives, I don't see a lot of progress.

For example, the legislature here in Indiana rescinded the credit and assistance programs the electric utility was doin to increase efficiency. Turning to this state to improve energy efficiency in homes doesn't fly well.

The next problem I have with it is that it is doing the same thing and trying to make it more efficient. Raising fuel standards is a great idea...what about my 17 year old vehicles? Secondly, what good does it do to increase efficiency pervehicle if the number of vehicles on the roads increases at the same time? Net effect zero.

What steps are being taken to reduce the number of vehicles? Or a more efficient use of the systems we already have. Eg, reducing the transportation of goods across the country by implementing local productions. This not only reduces our footprint, it also provides regional jobs.

How about some mandates for sustainability and reuse? Do what some european countries do. You must have a use for a byproduct or pay a penalty. If a factory, like a steel mill (assumign there are any left in this country) or a fossil fuel generator has heat as a byproduct of its operation, use that heat for other purposes.

But it really was a nice looking report. Just didn't go very far. It seemed like the author was more worried about stepping on toes than stepping forward.

Nye and Tyson musta chewed his butt. postulater May 2014 #1
And Jimmy. pangaia May 2014 #2
Yes, Jimmy. postulater May 2014 #6
John Holdren more likely. FailureToCommunicate May 2014 #8
I hope they propose some effective actions. postulater May 2014 #26
Good newfie11 May 2014 #3
yes but instead of stopping the big polluters 2pooped2pop May 2014 #4
Sadly that is exactly what will happen. nt TBF May 2014 #5
Reminds me of when Obama cut Social Security. JoePhilly May 2014 #7
and when he went after those bankers too 2pooped2pop May 2014 #10
And when he didn't end DADT. JoePhilly May 2014 #11
Drat, you have seen through his eeeevil plan! riqster May 2014 #14
Did you hear this report is ahead of "big" climate change bill/initiative ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #15
Speculative outrage is the very best kind ... JoePhilly May 2014 #42
A small city like ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #47
just saying 2pooped2pop May 2014 #16
This has nothing to do w/Obama personally - TBF May 2014 #13
yeah, ditto 2pooped2pop May 2014 #18
You made a prediction about what's going to happen. JoePhilly May 2014 #19
No - you instantly turned a statement TBF May 2014 #20
Yeah, and when he fought long and hard for the public option. Maven May 2014 #70
You are just so right. That's exactly what will happen Autumn May 2014 #22
If only we could harness the precious powers of cynicism and pessimism and use them for Bluenorthwest May 2014 #25
yeah well, after people get their hopes up time and time again 2pooped2pop May 2014 #29
What "reality" are you speaking of? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #49
the one out here where most won't live to see social security 2pooped2pop May 2014 #54
More non-fact based "reality." ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #62
yeah, you're right. Not the right guys. 2pooped2pop May 2014 #65
Jesus, can he get credit for anything? randys1 May 2014 #28
Why would the Administration approve the pipeline ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #50
Good question and I hope you are right randys1 May 2014 #56
While I admit to having only the most pedestrian understanding ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #59
We should invade Canada and put a stop to that oil coming out of the ground randys1 May 2014 #63
Oh Noes .... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #64
Your post is profoundly ridiculous Shivering Jemmy May 2014 #31
and we both know it's not enough. 2pooped2pop May 2014 #36
This.Life on the plantation. n/t jtuck004 May 2014 #68
please, President Obama, help change the message from "global warming" to "climate change".... steve2470 May 2014 #9
That term was coined by the republican noise machine seabeckind May 2014 #32
hm wasn't aware of that steve2470 May 2014 #37
It should be called 'catastrophic climate change', ronnie624 May 2014 #40
The term was in common scientific use well before the GWB administration/fiasco. SeattleVet May 2014 #58
Your claim is wrong. Attached is a link to a UN document from 1992 that addresses climate change. xocet May 2014 #66
You are correct but missing the point seabeckind May 2014 #69
This last winter the local news frequently used a variation of your last sentence to minimize xocet May 2014 #74
It's anthropogenic global warming (AGW), Edim May 2014 #51
Here is a direct link to download the report kristopher May 2014 #57
It's a good report as far as it goes - I jsut wish whoever prepared it had had the time/money hedgehog May 2014 #61
Thank you. nt bananas May 2014 #73
I think it would be a big help if the US sponsored a summit, have all the experts gathered Jefferson23 May 2014 #12
because it cost the people with money some of their billions in profits to 2pooped2pop May 2014 #17
We are destroying the earth for the 1% fasttense May 2014 #21
Good analogy marions ghost May 2014 #44
Long ago I found things like this work better seabeckind May 2014 #41
Yeah marions ghost May 2014 #45
Got that right seabeckind May 2014 #48
I think so, and as you point out..you frame it and educate at the same time. You're moving Jefferson23 May 2014 #52
The Republican deniers and their financial backers will reject this........ Swede Atlanta May 2014 #23
They don't care about marions ghost May 2014 #46
Exactly why we need a definite course of ACTION seabeckind May 2014 #60
Kiss your asses goodbye. nt onehandle May 2014 #24
Fox will call this a distraction from, you guessed it.... IDemo May 2014 #27
Yea, but what about Bengaawzeee mindem May 2014 #30
Then why did you mention it? n/t seabeckind May 2014 #34
Nothing could disrespect the victims of Benghazi marions ghost May 2014 #55
And the plan is????? seabeckind May 2014 #33
I agree deutsey May 2014 #53
Sad K&R. Some will then say it is okay to poison our ground water with fracking because it reduces Overseas May 2014 #35
One one hand I'm glad to see climate change getting some press. snappyturtle May 2014 #38
No! No summit, no committee, no bullsh!t seabeckind May 2014 #39
I don't understand why the midwest continues to be Red Marrah_G May 2014 #43
The White House has released some good reports. Probably a good idea to release another report. Sunlei May 2014 #67
Nothing more than historical CYA until we see real action that puts the pinch on corporate polluters Maven May 2014 #71
@Barack Obama Cha May 2014 #72
Thanks very much. seabeckind May 2014 #75
Fox News Claims Climate Change Report Is A Distraction From Benghazi TomCADem May 2014 #76
We can't wait on top-down change. We all need to be making changes locally and personally. n/t Lodestar May 2014 #77
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