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hack89

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67. No - I made a bald assertion reflected in reality
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 11:56 AM
Dec 2014

that there is no wide public support for strict gun control

You post about a woman who made an idiotic tweet (it is not even certain she has a gun). If that is the best you can do then I think you are making my point for me.

no background check necessary for a person to person sale in WV Clint0n Dec 2014 #1
was not at a gun show Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #2
The term "gun show loophole" brentspeak Dec 2014 #9
No response? malokvale77 Dec 2014 #10
Why wasn't it named the "private sale" loophole? n/t beevul Dec 2014 #75
I think the complaint is about the term "gun show" Recursion Dec 2014 #82
Responsible gun owners would have paid an FFL to handle background check and transfer, Hoyt Dec 2014 #31
Sure the seller could, bur LynnTTT Dec 2014 #55
That's the problem with the law, and the problem with gun owners. They don't give a darn. Hoyt Dec 2014 #56
States can close this. OR, the federal government can open up NICS so private sellers AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #4
Gun owners can do it through an FFL right now. Not a good idea to open it to public. Hoyt Dec 2014 #32
No, there are only record keeping requirements from a dealer. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #34
An FFL has to keep records. Your average yahoo selling a gun in a parking lot, isn't Hoyt Dec 2014 #35
The average yahoo in a parking lot isn't required to do that. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #36
That's why it needs to go through FFL. We're going around in circles, I think I'll get off. Hoyt Dec 2014 #48
Well, they aren't going to open up NICS, so on that, we agree. It'll have to go through an FFL. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #49
you don't like merrry-go-rounds? snooper2 Dec 2014 #51
Private sellers are not FFLs hack89 Dec 2014 #42
I fully realize that. So take your gun to FFL to record transfer. Is that too much to ask so-called Hoyt Dec 2014 #50
UBCs are the law where I live. hack89 Dec 2014 #52
I realize the guy who sold the gun can't be charged, legally. Morally, it's another question. Hoyt Dec 2014 #53
Agreed. Adrahil Dec 2014 #74
should be called gun humper loophole Skittles Dec 2014 #33
That's very helpful AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #91
LOL Skittles Dec 2014 #92
I know right AnalystInParadise Dec 2014 #93
If it was sold on facebook Demsrule86 Dec 2014 #72
What federal law was broken? He sold it from one WV resident to another WV resident. nt kelly1mm Dec 2014 #78
If it was sold within state, then no federal law was broken. GGJohn Dec 2014 #80
Why would there be? FBaggins Dec 2014 #3
Reason to suspect. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #5
I'm not sure if it is the law anywhere but I have read about ways to do background checks csziggy Dec 2014 #8
Here in NC, benEzra Dec 2014 #12
I realized that there could be checks through law enforcement csziggy Dec 2014 #15
The biggest problem we tend to have benEzra Dec 2014 #44
If I know them well enough to sell them a gun... malokvale77 Dec 2014 #11
So why not require background checks on *all* transactions? nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #18
Manchin proposed that but Feinstein sucked out all the oxygen out of the debate Recursion Dec 2014 #83
Yeah for bullshit loopholes! mikeysnot Dec 2014 #6
Not a loop hole, but a explicit exemption. ManiacJoe Dec 2014 #13
Then perhaps said exemption shouldn't exist. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #19
That is what the pro-gun folks keep saying. ManiacJoe Dec 2014 #37
The seller didn't break any law madville Dec 2014 #25
He should be charged with selling to an ineligable buyer. ManiacJoe Dec 2014 #38
Doesn't work that way hack89 Dec 2014 #47
I agree that it currently does not work that way. ManiacJoe Dec 2014 #57
Without access to NICS, the seller doesn't know who is and is not eligible. Adrahil Dec 2014 #79
NICS is one way, but not the only way. ManiacJoe Dec 2014 #81
Wayne says thanks for your reasoned response. Nt hack89 Dec 2014 #17
Has a penis reference been made yet? NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #30
Made and defended. Nt hack89 Dec 2014 #41
DEFEND THE PENIS!!! NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #46
Someone has to say it... mikeysnot Dec 2014 #43
And Wayne was hoping you would say it exactly the way you said it. nt hack89 Dec 2014 #45
oohhhwwwwhhwhw mikeysnot Dec 2014 #59
Childish and immature opponents are the best hack89 Dec 2014 #61
So republican mikeysnot Dec 2014 #62
You denying the gun control movement is weak and impotent? hack89 Dec 2014 #63
Wow, projecting again... mikeysnot Dec 2014 #64
Do you really believe there is wide popular support for strict gun control? hack89 Dec 2014 #65
And yet another logical fallacy from you... mikeysnot Dec 2014 #66
No - I made a bald assertion reflected in reality hack89 Dec 2014 #67
So how long did it take for you to create this fantasy world you live in? mikeysnot Dec 2014 #68
Shannon Watts is an ex Monsanto PR flack financed by a Republican billionaire hack89 Dec 2014 #69
Moving the goal posts you are! mikeysnot Dec 2014 #70
I guess "effective" is not a appropriate qualifier either hack89 Dec 2014 #71
Give it time. mikeysnot Dec 2014 #87
As our murder rate continues its 20 year decline hack89 Dec 2014 #88
What do you live on this site? I just posted that. mikeysnot Dec 2014 #89
Moms demand action... shedevil69taz Dec 2014 #77
So being "true " grass roots? mikeysnot Dec 2014 #85
Gun banning shannon watts? beevul Dec 2014 #76
Believe what you want... mikeysnot Dec 2014 #86
I believe her when she says... beevul Dec 2014 #90
I ask for a CHP and bill of sale for my FB gun deals. ileus Dec 2014 #7
Thanks for being a responsible gun dealer. nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #20
Not a great solution. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #29
Of course. Guns are the Jesus of the Right. onehandle Dec 2014 #14
So every gun owner is impotent? hack89 Dec 2014 #16
All, or the majority? Of course not. But some do seem to be trying to compensate for something. nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #21
Have you ever considered that your arm flapping angst over guns hack89 Dec 2014 #22
Mine? I have no problem with gun ownership. Though I would like to see universal background checks nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #23
I am with you on UBCs - my state has them and they work well hack89 Dec 2014 #24
and they never say Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #26
Laughing. crim son Dec 2014 #94
I don't carry in public hack89 Dec 2014 #96
careful Skittles Dec 2014 #39
Not upsetting - kind of reassuring in a way hack89 Dec 2014 #40
"Happiness is a warm gun" stone space Dec 2014 #27
"It was [from] a gun magazine. I just thought it was a fantastic, insane thing to say. nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #28
everything working perfectly, just as planned…n/t librechik Dec 2014 #54
In an ideal situation hollowdweller Dec 2014 #58
As you note, there is precedent for government confiscation after registration. branford Dec 2014 #60
OK you are selling a gun to a stranger olddots Dec 2014 #73
And yet our party spends more energy banning bayonet lugs and regulating rifles' grip shape Recursion Dec 2014 #84
bayonet lugs and rifle grips can be used as grapeshot seveneyes Dec 2014 #95
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