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benEzra

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37. Hunting accounts for a very, very small percentage of rounds fired annually.
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 03:38 PM
Dec 2014

Target shooters account for the overwhelming majority of the 14-20 billion rounds of ammunition sold annually, and most of that is recycled. Only about 1 in 5 gun owners is a hunter, and many/most hunters also own nonhunting guns. Also, by its nature, target shooting consumes a lot more ammunition than hunting does.

The big problem is that there are no substitutes for lead in handgun and small/intermediate-caliber rifle ammunition that aren't either banned by Federal law (copper, tungsten, steel, bronze, etc. are considered armor piercing, as are most potential lead substitutes), impractical (bismuth, aluminum, gold, silver), or toxic. Back in the 1980s, a lot of recreational target ammunition used a mild steel core, but gun control activists got that banned in 1989 and 1994, as I recall. There is also no good substitute for lead styphnate based primers (the percussion cap that initiates ignition; alternatives so far are unreliable). So a ban on lead ammunition would be a ban on most ammunition, and a functional ban on most guns.

If you want to reduce the use of lead-core ammunition in target shooting, repeal the law against "armor-piercing" non-lead ammunition, and come up with an inexpensive and abundant alloy that approximates the softness, density, and ductility of lead for those uses that require it.

Below the post was an ad stating "join the NRA" Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #1
"The Toxic Substances Control Act exempts cartridges and shells from regulation" arcane1 Dec 2014 #2
There was no way the court was going to permit the EPA to effectively institute gun control branford Dec 2014 #3
Many hunters do not use these types of bullets anymore. At least those who care about the jwirr Dec 2014 #4
I never use lead in wilderness shooting... Only at the range. Adrahil Dec 2014 #5
A lot of my friends belong to Ducks Unlimited. They understand that if they use the lead and the jwirr Dec 2014 #6
Yep. I'm not a hunter, but I want to avoid the lead inadvertently getting into food supply. Adrahil Dec 2014 #14
And I want to keep the lead from getting into our water supply duhneece Dec 2014 #35
They are fired into artificial berms, which are broken down and cleaned every 5 years. Adrahil Dec 2014 #36
But some still do......... Capt.Rocky300 Dec 2014 #7
Seek relief with your state legislature. branford Dec 2014 #10
I know. I think the decision of the court is wrong because there are alternatives to lead. It would jwirr Dec 2014 #22
Agreed. But the swans are not game yet they die................. Capt.Rocky300 Dec 2014 #24
That is awful. More reason they made the wrong decision. jwirr Dec 2014 #25
Here's the problem jmowreader Dec 2014 #33
Only shotgun hunters going for birds typically use non-lead ammo NickB79 Dec 2014 #15
This hunter doesn't anymore. GGJohn Dec 2014 #26
Kudos to you, GGJohn for sanity. I hiss at the court and utter profanity: freshwest Dec 2014 #29
But the NRA thinks lead is part of a wholesome diet, apparently... freshwest Dec 2014 #28
Can't interfere secondvariety Dec 2014 #8
And that is precisely the attitude why the EPA has no jurisdiction over cartridges and shells. branford Dec 2014 #11
It's that superiority complex Plucketeer Dec 2014 #12
And that's exactly the type of attitude that hardens hunters against GGJohn Dec 2014 #27
"Those like you". secondvariety Dec 2014 #38
simple solution... allow use of steel bullets ...nt quadrature Dec 2014 #9
Steel is a poor substitute for lead NickB79 Dec 2014 #13
serious hunting... a tiny fraction of bullets used ... quadrature Dec 2014 #17
Steel bullets don't work all that well. Adrahil Dec 2014 #16
I am not against lead bullets .. I am against ... quadrature Dec 2014 #18
Steel core bullets are illegal in some states, not steel bullets hack89 Dec 2014 #20
Ah I see. n/t Adrahil Dec 2014 #21
Until a steel bullet sparks on a rock and starts a forest fire NickB79 Dec 2014 #40
I cast my own... ileus Dec 2014 #19
Guns Don't Kill, Bullets Do AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #23
Common sense helps in this issue Boxerfan Dec 2014 #30
Fortunately hunting license numbers have been on the decline. vkkv Dec 2014 #31
Why is that "fortunate?" branford Dec 2014 #32
Don't know about the inexpensive part... ileus Dec 2014 #34
$100/pound -- whaaat? Brickbat Dec 2014 #42
What are you hunting with, gold bullets? NickB79 Dec 2014 #44
The article is about lead toxicity. vkkv Jan 2015 #46
Hunting accounts for a very, very small percentage of rounds fired annually. benEzra Dec 2014 #37
They will increase bag limits if hunter numbers decline madville Dec 2014 #39
As hunting declines, farmers are clearing more land for crops NickB79 Dec 2014 #41
I don't use lead bullets anymore, period. Monometals are better in every single way. sir pball Dec 2014 #43
NRA members ate lead paint chips as kids True Blue Door Dec 2014 #45
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