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Jarqui

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3. Clinton trying to cling to the other two Secretarys of State is a deception.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 07:32 PM
Feb 2016

It's far from the same situation. Powell and Rice (or her staff) used private email for material that was not classified at the time.

For you to believe Hillary did the same, one thing you have to accept, since she only had one email address (no .gov email address),
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/
is that she never sent or received any information in any email that was already classified in her four years as Secretary of State. Think about that. Think about what the Secretary of State does and how impossible that scenario would be to come about given that information from foreigners is born classified.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-clinton-emails-idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

Powell and Rice did not:
- have their own unsecured server at home storing state department emails - including over 1600 emails with classified information - some that were classified when she took possession of it
- exposed emails between the president and SoS through her unsecure server which are born confidential/classified
- have 29 (apparently the number has risen) top secret emails exposed over and above the other two that were beyond top secret
- expose emails from foreign countries that are born classified (classified the second they are created)
So there are quite of few things very different about what went on here with Hillary's emails compared with Powell & Rice. But Hillary didn't tell the American people that during the debate. She implied her situation was basically the same ... another lie. Clinging to Powell and Rice's situation was bogus and Hillary knew it.

Check out this little exchange in the press conference of Feb 4th
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2016/02/252161.htm

QUESTION: Right. So are you challenging sworn declarations from the CIA that they were top secret at the time of transmission?

MR KIRBY: As I said last week, it was at the request of the intelligence community that we specifically upgraded that traffic to top secret.

QUESTION: Okay, so you don’t dispute that.

MR KIRBY: If we had disputed it, we wouldn’t have upgraded it --

QUESTION: Okay.


John Kirby, Spokesperson at the state Department, acknowledged that there are sworn declarations from the CIA that said there were emails on Hillary's server that were top secret at the time of transmission and Kirby doesn't dispute those declarations (noted in Jan 14th letter link below).
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2693832/Letter-by-the-Intelligence-Agencies-Inspector.pdf

Hillary has denied doing this and the CIA has two sworn declarations she did that the State Department does not dispute.

Do Powell and Rice have "sworn declarations from the CIA that" their emails "were top secret at the time of transmission" ? Nope.

Would Hillary know what has been found? The IG says he's been updating her lawyer. And heck, it's in the news and on the State Department website.

I wouldn't put too much stock in Powell's or Rice's email situation. I realize that's what Hillary has tried to suck us into doing but that's another Clinton deception.
Yes, it is a good read. Esp after all the lies being posed in gd-p. riversedge Feb 2016 #1
DU posters Floridanow Feb 2016 #4
More likely to come Floridanow Feb 2016 #2
Clinton trying to cling to the other two Secretarys of State is a deception. Jarqui Feb 2016 #3
None of the email was classified. Floridanow Feb 2016 #5
You need to reread my post. It provides a transcript of Jarqui Feb 2016 #6
I think Secretary Clinton knows it was TS at the time Press Virginia Feb 2016 #8
I do not understand her strategy. Did she really think that not coming clean Jarqui Feb 2016 #9
I don't think she's capable of admitting mistakes Press Virginia Feb 2016 #11
I think so as well. This is not a little "oops". It's not a one time thing. Jarqui Feb 2016 #12
From the IG of the Intelligence Community Jarqui Feb 2016 #7
you apparently have your own personal def' of 'deception' contradictory to what every one else means Bill USA Feb 2016 #13
You want to provide a link to that quote. (I doubt it matters... but) Jarqui Feb 2016 #15
it well known that Bernie said:""Nobody wants to hear about your damn emails." Bill USA Feb 2016 #19
Nope Jarqui Feb 2016 #20
LOL! the 1st step in disinformation is to willfully misinterpret the opponents statements. Bill USA Feb 2016 #21
that was not a quote from Bernie - I would have put the statment in quotes - it was my own Bill USA Feb 2016 #22
you should understand that Democrats are not impressed with Punk Talk. Which you have some facility Bill USA Feb 2016 #23
RE your statement: "Powell and Rice did not: - have their own unsecured server".. they had personal Bill USA Feb 2016 #14
Have you got a link to that eyesore? to back it up nt Jarqui Feb 2016 #16
are U being offensive "eyesore"? here are more links in addition to the one in OP, did you read it? Bill USA Feb 2016 #17
No, I'm aware of the media stories on Powell & Rice Jarqui Feb 2016 #18
the para you ask links for cites facts that have been reported numerous times. IF you hadn't been Bill USA Feb 2016 #24
A long winded way of saying "I'm pullin' this out of my a**" and Jarqui Feb 2016 #25
re: comment 14. if you can't be more specific I am not going to begin a private seminar for you.. Bill USA Feb 2016 #27
That might explain ejbr Feb 2016 #10
So she's justifying herself in terms of the Dubya administration? Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #26
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