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Thu Jul 20, 2017, 12:28 AM

4. Probably only in official reports that nobody cares about.

DOD issues such things routinely.

But AI always knows more than it's possible to know. In Mosul, like in Raqqa and other places, AI's numbers are produced by vacuum cleaner. If there's a death from an explosion, it's the US' fault and "may be a war crime." (Of course, "may be a war crime" is exactly equivalent to "may not be a war crime", but it's never put that way.)

It doesn't matter if the bombing raid was called in by Iraqi forces, regular or irregular, without any US folk present. It doesn't matter if the coordinates were wrong. It doesn't matter if a 100-lb hits a truck carrying 5 fighters and 1000 lbs of explosives which in turn take out a fuel depot 100 feet away, killing not just the 5 fighters but anybody near the secondary explosion or tertiary explosion. If a chain of responsibility can be found to the US, it will be given as fact or near fact. The baseline, default, null scenario is all the bad guys fall dead in their uniforms while holding their ISIS-issued ID combatant cards, while all civilians are well and fine and fail to even trip and skin a knee while coming out of hiding. It doesn't matter how many Iraqi or US personnel are killed.

It doesn't really even matter if the bombing was done by the US. If a ISIS bomb goes off and a US plane was in the area, there's a traditional xenophobia to blame the outsider, if only to avoid the difficulty of blaming somebody in the area or having nobody to blame.

AI also forgets that civilian infrastructure can be military targets, if being used by the enemy and the assessment is that the value of the target makes striking it worthwhile. Part of the assessment is the number of civilians present. For AI, no collateral damage is ever worth it. That's AI. We'd be commonwealth if AI was around in 1776.

The thing is, in the last 6-8 months they've moved from getting ISIS out of villages and desert to getting them out of built up areas. They simply abandoned many villages, and bombing raids were on convoys in the middle of nowhere. Now ... They're in towns, and ISIS has a fondness for the old parts of cities. Places where you can open your 3rd story window and hand something to your neighbor across the street.

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