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Lets see if we are smart or not. 4now Aug 2017 #1
Yes, lets be smart Dems and not fall for purity tests. riversedge Aug 2017 #54
Yeah. shanny Aug 2017 #63
No. Actually this isn't like any of those things. lapucelle Aug 2017 #102
Kicked and Recommended NBachers Aug 2017 #2
K & R!!! NanceGreggs Aug 2017 #3
meh Lithos Aug 2017 #4
Hardly. zentrum Aug 2017 #5
Obamacare saved tens of thousands of lives, including my brother's. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #7
Well, sure... zentrum Aug 2017 #90
If it's just a matter of framing, why couldn't they do it in Vermont? SunSeeker Aug 2017 #91
Women may just not come so easily apcalc Aug 2017 #104
We should aspire fo health care like Germany GulfCoast66 Aug 2017 #94
That would be great too. zentrum Aug 2017 #95
It is similar. apcalc Aug 2017 #107
Single payer supporters should get behind Rep. Conyers Medicare for All bill. lapucelle Aug 2017 #106
Is this the same Dana Milbank ornotna Aug 2017 #6
Milbank apparently votes a write-in for presidential elections. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #9
I disagree with the author and his "policy" ornotna Aug 2017 #12
Yup. KPN Aug 2017 #39
My thoughts exactly. Milbank likes to present as though he is objective, KPN Aug 2017 #38
It is. He's a conservative with all the deeply held convictions of a noodle Warpy Aug 2017 #56
The Berniebros may be trying murielm99 Aug 2017 #8
True. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #11
How have candidates backed by the DNC, the DCCC done over the past 8 years? KPN Aug 2017 #40
It is wrong to say I am spreading "false stuff." SunSeeker Aug 2017 #58
No but Milbanks does when he uses KPN Aug 2017 #76
This thread is about strategy. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #79
'Berniebros" malign the Democratic Party? Ghost Dog Aug 2017 #85
Thank you. KPN Aug 2017 #87
With all due respect, when the strategy KPN Aug 2017 #89
I Say NOTHING! Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #10
these people are trolls. they may use sanders name but their only goal is trolling and to help JI7 Aug 2017 #13
Don't believe that about Turner Vetteguy Aug 2017 #14
Ding! Ding! Ding! Nina Turner fronts for anyone willing to give her money. She lost her race for.. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #17
I agree with Dana. n/t Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #15
And despite your disclaimer at the bottom, this was just alerted on. GoneOffShore Aug 2017 #16
Thanks. We really need to decide on the best strategy to win the midterms. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #18
Someone alerted this? Vetteguy Aug 2017 #22
Actually, Pelosi and Hoyer are coming to the Republicans' rescue. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #19
They are Democrats while the others aren't Vetteguy Aug 2017 #23
The majority of the House DEMOCRATS are cosponsoring HR 676. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #37
The majority of House Dems have not signed on to a tax to pay for it. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #49
You're trying to dodge the basic point. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #51
No, I am not. The specifics of how to pay for single payer is VERY important. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #55
I note you didn't answer my question about the charge in your OP. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #59
Those 117 Dems are NOT demanding a single payer litmus test for all Dem midterm candidates. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #61
Our Revolution is perfectly free to decide whom to endorse. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #65
They don't just endorse, they trash the centrist Dem. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #70
More of this loaded language. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #71
It is one thing to argue the merits of a policy, it is another to say a Dem is bought by Wall Street SunSeeker Aug 2017 #72
It's not as clear as you seem to think Jim Lane Aug 2017 #75
Maligning and misrepresenting Dems as "Establishment Dems" is not the best strategy. nt SunSeeker Aug 2017 #80
But maligning and misrepresenting Dems as "Bernie Bros" IS the best strategy? Jim Lane Aug 2017 #81
"Establishment Dems" is a "useful term" only for Republicans. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #82
Fine, tell me what term you want. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #83
Dems. Why is it so important for you to label people? Regardless, this thread is about strategy. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #84
OK, so you're attacking "Bernie Bros" but insisting that everyone else must say only "Dems" Jim Lane Aug 2017 #86
I'm not attacking anyone, I'm questioning Our Revolution's single payer strategy. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #93
It is not a "bill for single payer." It is merely a "Pledge." SunSeeker Aug 2017 #29
The point is that there's division in the party about the subject. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #36
Good post! Thank you for taking the time to express such well-reasoned thinking on this. KPN Aug 2017 #41
You can't "leave the specifics to local candidates." SunSeeker Aug 2017 #53
Your call for Democratic lockstep is both impractical and unnecessary. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #60
It is Our Revolution who is demanding lockstep fealty on single payer. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #62
See my response in #65. (n/t) Jim Lane Aug 2017 #67
Well if you demand specifics, KPN Aug 2017 #73
It is easy to sell single payer. It is not easy to sell a tax on the middle class. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #74
Then let's work harder at selling the KPN Aug 2017 #77
Only REPUBLICANS "have given lip service to jobs for decades." SunSeeker Aug 2017 #78
Jim L might have a point if any of Bernie's handpicked candidates had actually won with his.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #103
As opposed to the astonishing successes of the current Party leadership? Jim Lane Aug 2017 #108
Are you saying there haven't been any Democratic victories since the '16 election? If so.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #109
Uh, no, I wasn't saying anything like that. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #111
I'm glad we agree that I was right. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2017 #112
I really *hope* you're kidding. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #113
HR 676 does not set a tax to fund it. That is how Vermont single payer died. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #46
Just popping in to say how much I've enjoyed reading your posts in this thread. femmedem Aug 2017 #105
"insufficiently pure"? Ninsianna Aug 2017 #96
My point is the hypocrisy of decrying "divisiveness" but doing so *selectively* Jim Lane Aug 2017 #97
My point is that the hypocrisy was from the people doing all the dividing, and the outrage Ninsianna Aug 2017 #98
Sorry, but you're exhibiting the same double standard as the OP. Jim Lane Aug 2017 #99
But I am not, and I've explained the false equivalency you're trying to engage in here. Ninsianna Aug 2017 #100
You say "false equivalence" because you refuse to respect other Democrats' views Jim Lane Aug 2017 #110
Thanks for all that! LovesPNW Aug 2017 #101
get RID of the DC consultants and talk to humans. better deal??? how bout FAIR DEAL? pansypoo53219 Aug 2017 #20
I like that. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #21
Excellent! KPN Aug 2017 #42
Perhaps all of us Bernie Bros Indepatriot Aug 2017 #24
Interesting talking point very familiar. Vetteguy Aug 2017 #27
So universal healthcare is a litmus test but women's choice and freedom isn't? TeamPooka Aug 2017 #25
Medicare for All & Universal Healthcare are not the same thing delisen Aug 2017 #30
Straw man deflection debate point. Thanks for playing. TeamPooka Aug 2017 #45
So we're supposed to throw out logic? No thanks. delisen Aug 2017 #66
+1111! KPN Aug 2017 #43
Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #26
This is a site for Democrats Vetteguy Aug 2017 #28
Dana Milbank nailed it. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #31
I will never surrender to the far Left extremists.......NEVER !!!!!!! Trust Buster Aug 2017 #32
Huh? What the heck does that mean? KPN Aug 2017 #44
I'm sorry GaryCnf Aug 2017 #33
There ARE Trump voters that support Obamacare. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #48
Rasmussen? GaryCnf Aug 2017 #50
Trump won by a total of 72,000 votes in three swing states. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #57
First, let me apologize for the numbers GaryCnf Aug 2017 #64
NO cuts to SS, Medicare, Medicare; raise taxes on the rich to pay for infrastructure jobs. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #68
You know something GaryCnf Aug 2017 #69
This is a powerful critique and well worth considering mcar Aug 2017 #34
Indeed.. I had the same reaction. nt SunSeeker Aug 2017 #47
K & R. JHan Aug 2017 #35
. LovesPNW Aug 2017 #52
Instead of posting this idiot diatribe to bobalew Aug 2017 #88
It is Our Revolution's single payer litmus test that is divisive. SunSeeker Aug 2017 #92
Great editorial Gothmog Aug 2017 #114
Do I have to repeat my post again? rock Aug 2017 #115
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