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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #103)

Mon Aug 14, 2017, 11:37 PM

108. As opposed to the astonishing successes of the current Party leadership?

 

It's an oft-quoted statistic that, over the past eight or nine years, Democrats have lost a net of something like 900 elected offices, mostly in state legislatures. Was that Bernie's fault?

In the Georgia special election, Jon Ossoff opposed single payer and supported tax cuts for business. He lost. Was that Bernie's fault?

As a side note, it's amusing that DU's tireless bash-Bernie brigade was howling that Bernie should have campaigned for Ossoff, even though Ossoff chose to position himself on the more conservative side of the Democratic spectrum. So, let me get this straight, the Georgia loss was Bernie's fault because he handpicked a candidate who disagreed with him on key issues, and also because Bernie, who's so far to the left that the party establishment should ignore him in planning for the midterms, nevertheless could have swung the election in a Republican district by campaigning there? Forgive me if I got some of that wrong. It's hard to keep up with all the Bernie-bashing around here.

BTW, I'm not aware of any races this year that featured "Bernie's handpicked candidates". I hadn't heard that before. I don't suppose you happen to have a link? My impression has been that the candidates emerged through the normal local processes. Ossoff, for example, "was endorsed by prominent figures such as Congressmen Hank Johnson and John Lewis, and state House Democratic Leader Stacey Abrams." (per Ossoff's Wikipedia bio) He got into the runoff because he placed in the top two in a jungle primary, not because Bernie was exercising his Rasputin-like control of the Georgia electorate. In Montana, Rob Quist was nominated (on the fourth ballot) at a state party convention. As we saw from the behavior of the superdelegates in 2016, the party establishment is overwhelmingly hostile to Bernie, so it's not clear to me how he could foist his supposed "handpicked candidates" on the Democratic Party in Kansas or South Carolina, either.

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