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TygrBright

(20,756 posts)
19. Was James Toback? Was Mark Halperin? Was Brett Ratner?
Thu Nov 16, 2017, 03:37 PM
Nov 2017

This is NOT a court of law and the standard of "innocent until proven guilty" is not at issue.

The issue is: Do we believe women who accuse the famous, the powerful, the well-known and even the well-beloved, of skeevy behavior? Or do we write them off, enable those accused to avoid having to face courts of public opinion, culture, and even civil and criminal law? And if we choose to believe them, what is the ethical, progressive response?

I'm assuming you didn't click the VF link and read the long, thoughtful, and painful article there all the way through. Ms Williams covers the credibility of the women who came forward, the evidence assembled, the corroboration of other sources and their varying levels of presumed bias and involvement, in some detail.

We DO have to be alert for the rare phenomenon of false accusation, particularly in a politically divided environment. But we have to balance the potential damage of such false accusations against the established fact of their rarity. And against the long-established "benefit of the doubt" extended to the accused perpetrators that has become so routine it's yet another form of enabling.

patiently,
Bright

I was a supporter of Bill Clinton, but you definately did a fine job of assembling your .... marble falls Nov 2017 #1
Bookmarking. K & R n/t rzemanfl Nov 2017 #2
Thoughtful indeed. Recommended. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #3
I agree with you, I do remember a photo of Monica Lewinsky flirting with him Motley13 Nov 2017 #4
Great post BeyondGeography Nov 2017 #5
There were no "correct" choices for her to make, politically. TygrBright Nov 2017 #9
Very compelling and significant. TY.. stuffmatters Nov 2017 #6
K and R n/t RockCreek Nov 2017 #7
What is your point? Maraya1969 Nov 2017 #8
"If everything has to have a point... then I must have one, too!" TygrBright Nov 2017 #10
It is just that anytime a Republican wants to divert attention from one of their Maraya1969 Nov 2017 #12
Wow, I was not for Clinton in the primaries either karynnj Nov 2017 #11
Was there truth to the charge of "past transgressions"? Nitram Nov 2017 #17
Was James Toback? Was Mark Halperin? Was Brett Ratner? TygrBright Nov 2017 #19
I admit that I suspect Republicans would do whatever they could to bring the Clintons down. Nitram Nov 2017 #22
He basically admitted to "causing pain in his marriage" - a reference to karynnj Nov 2017 #21
That was a courageous OP GaryCnf Nov 2017 #13
Thank you! TygrBright Nov 2017 #14
Finally.... CanSocDem Nov 2017 #15
This post exaggerates and uses adjectives designed to evoke disgust without providing evidence to Nitram Nov 2017 #16
The term "skeeve" is a description of the behavior. TygrBright Nov 2017 #18
Your gratuitous repetition of the term while essentially repeating the same charge substantially Nitram Nov 2017 #23
Well-said, Bright. k&r, nt appal_jack Nov 2017 #20
Fuck that shit.... Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #24
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