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Jon King

(1,910 posts)
22. I disagree, we want him to say 2024...
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:02 AM
Nov 2020

No, we want Trump to pretend to run in 2024. Of course he has no intention of it. Without the incumbency to pay his expenses he would run a broke campaign, the change in demographics in the suburbs guarantees he never wins key swing states again, and how much he further motivated black voters means they would show up today to vote against him in 4 years if that is what it took, he would lose by 12-15 million votes. And he knows it. Saying 2024 is just another grift from the rubes to send him money.

But we want him to pretend to run so it destroys the Repub field. No one can get a serious campaign going while Trump pretends to be interested. If he subs in a surrogate at a late moment, they would have the Trump tarnish without his entire cult....again, a loss by 12-15 million votes. Even better, a primary candidate tries to out Trump Trump and splinters off the nuttiest third. That would destroy the Repub party for a generation.

The longer Trump retains pull in the party, the more their base ages, dies off, loses economic power, and they make no inroads with younger voters. I hope Trump lives to 100 if he stays out of jail and continues to be the face of the Repubs. That dooms them for decades to being a red state party while the future leaves them far behind.

As maddening as it will be to see him hold rallies and tweet crap, the longer Trump stays in charge of the party the weaker and more isolated it will become. In the long game, more Trump with no power is better for the Dems. A constant reminder to the majority of the country as to why Repubs can never be trusted with the Presidency again.

The republicans are too cowardly even for option #2. madaboutharry Nov 2020 #1
I agree, but don't think it serves Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #2
Everything riles up his base. This has to stop. Hekate Nov 2020 #13
This! KPN Nov 2020 #37
I agree with Hekate here, it has to stop. And that means WE need to stop it. Not age or health. US. better Nov 2020 #35
Okay Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #39
What was the body count from impeaching him the first time? better Nov 2020 #41
You are entitled to your opinion Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #42
Well, he can't be impeached after January 20. Marcuse Nov 2020 #3
Yes, he can. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #14
Private citizens are indicted, not impeached. Marcuse Nov 2020 #28
He is subject to both. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #32
Disqualification is only voted upon following a successful removal vote by a supermajority. FreepFryer Nov 2020 #4
It drives me nuts when I hear or read about "the future political life of trump" Escurumbele Nov 2020 #5
"in their right mind" GopherGal Nov 2020 #16
i agree. mopinko Nov 2020 #6
That' my line of thinking too. Hit him with emoluments this time for the impeachment. Pobeka Nov 2020 #23
couldnt hurt, but mopinko Nov 2020 #27
Even with Georgia, the new wnylib Nov 2020 #34
maybe, maybe not. mopinko Nov 2020 #36
Enough for a 2/3 majority?? wnylib Nov 2020 #38
i dunno. depends on how many of them mopinko Nov 2020 #40
It would be pointless. He's not wnylib Nov 2020 #7
He deserves to be impeached, yes, but it would be pointless FakeNoose Nov 2020 #9
Yes, he will continue to be destructive wnylib Nov 2020 #17
It just occurred to me, one possible grift would be a public speaking tour. The Animator Nov 2020 #26
If he's not in prison after leaving wnylib Nov 2020 #30
It really IS pointless. oldsoftie Nov 2020 #12
I have heard if he's under impeachment it limits actions his admin can take? Pobeka Nov 2020 #24
I'm wondering where you heard that. wnylib Nov 2020 #33
I would've seen it here at DU, but I posed it as a question because I'm unsure of the details. Pobeka Nov 2020 #44
I believe it limits what the Senate can do while he's being impeached. I could BComplex Nov 2020 #46
Right. Try to keep the toddler preoccupied with impeachment so he doesn't get into trouble Illumination Nov 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author marble falls Nov 2020 #10
Yes! There HAVE to be consequences for impeachable actions, or nothing will ever change! FailureToCommunicate Nov 2020 #11
Pointless, you'd never get the 2/3rds Tarc Nov 2020 #15
re-read NJCher Nov 2020 #29
Yes, they could impeach again and take up the matter after the new Senate is seated, dware Nov 2020 #31
Armchair Civics people are sad. Yes,. I read that part Tarc Nov 2020 #43
Impeach Again JGug1 Nov 2020 #18
Do it. n/t ClusterFreak Nov 2020 #19
The house can impeach the president without the Senate ToxMarz Nov 2020 #20
Impeachment will keep the focus on the actual perpetraitors of lawlessness mdbl Nov 2020 #21
I disagree, we want him to say 2024... Jon King Nov 2020 #22
Impeach him, Article 25 him---fucking do SOMETHING. Paladin Nov 2020 #25
And then democrats take over the senate and BOOM! No more problem with him running in BComplex Nov 2020 #45
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