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13. Even if they can't define it or confuse it with fascism, they know they don't like it.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:41 PM
Nov 2020

And we can't change that so if we're smart, we stay away from it. I've posted the following here before but at times it seems it's like braying into the wind.

Three generations of voters, millions of voters, the greatest generation, Boomers and GenXers were schooled in their formative years that socialism, failed communist collectives, Stalin, Kruschev, Brezhnev, the iron curtain, the Cuban missile crisis, fall out shelters...are all toxic and to be shunned.

Many voters learned nuance with critical thinking and matured out of that knee-jerk, negative reaction to socialism as there are aspects of it in our system (mostly us Dems) but millions haven't and never will and will vote against anything associated with socialism, democratic socialism, communism, whatever.

Anybody who doesn't get that has a depth of knowledge of their own country as that of a sidewalk puddle. We'll keep losing elections we don't have to until we figure out how to distance ourselves from that label. Maybe combat it by labeling repugs fascist, as they are, but the deplorables don't know the difference, as you said.

Goes much deeper than this. Goes to education and unfettered propaganda beachbumbob Nov 2020 #1
A new deal for this century flibbitygiblets Nov 2020 #2
We won millions of working class voters, maybe not the racist, white working class... brush Nov 2020 #3
This. Sadly. We can't compete with their racism. We need to look elsewhere. Squinch Nov 2020 #4
Yes. Without a financially and socially secure working class, Magoo48 Nov 2020 #5
The working class includes many millions Biden voters dawg day Nov 2020 #6
Yes, we just won the top of the ticket without them. Now if we can rein in our resident... brush Nov 2020 #7
"Democratic socialist" policies are popular... dawg day Nov 2020 #10
Please. It's not rocket science. The word "socialist" is toxic to millions of voters. brush Nov 2020 #11
I always ask those who are so scared of socialism dawg day Nov 2020 #12
Even if they can't define it or confuse it with fascism, they know they don't like it. brush Nov 2020 #13
I'm just not sure that those people would ever vote for a Democrat-- dawg day Nov 2020 #16
Let's hope so. Let's also hope the they weren't taught by their daddies to hate socialism too... brush Nov 2020 #17
Much better to call it social-democratic... keep_left Nov 2020 #19
True enough. We lost several seats in the House because of it. brush Nov 2020 #20
Even among White Working class, those who say the economy is important to them voted Biden JI7 Nov 2020 #8
I live in Red State 'Murika (70% voted for Fat Nixon), so this is what I have seen..... ssgbryan Nov 2020 #18
Does he ever actually listen to people and look at the evidence ? JI7 Nov 2020 #9
Pass laws that revent authoritarian options SmartVoter22 Nov 2020 #14
Trump fought for tax cuts for rich folk Skittles Nov 2020 #15
They see Republicans as being on their side Kablooie Nov 2020 #21
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