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dawg day

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16. I'm just not sure that those people would ever vote for a Democrat--

Reply to brush (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:40 PM

Nov 2020

I have an elderly relative who reflexively calls any Democrat "socialist." She said, "Joe Biden-- he's a socialist!" I pointed out that he actually wasn't a socialist at all, just a moderately liberal Democrat, but to her, that's the same as a socialist. I don't think she's reachable at all. She finally said that her father had hated 'FDR the socialist" and so she could never vote for a Democrat. (Daddy would be MAD! Daddy, obviously, has been dead since the Nixon years, but she can still feel his wrath.)

The "daddy hated FDR" group is old enough that most will probably die out, while more and more young people who weren't bathed in socialist-hate all their lives are turning 18. They're more likely to vote for a progressive regardless of the label applied by Trumpers.

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How do we avoid future authoritarians? Winning back the working class is key [View all] nitpicker Nov 2020 OP

Goes much deeper than this. Goes to education and unfettered propaganda beachbumbob Nov 2020 #1

A new deal for this century flibbitygiblets Nov 2020 #2

We won millions of working class voters, maybe not the racist, white working class... brush Nov 2020 #3

This. Sadly. We can't compete with their racism. We need to look elsewhere. Squinch Nov 2020 #4

Yes. Without a financially and socially secure working class, Magoo48 Nov 2020 #5

The working class includes many millions Biden voters dawg day Nov 2020 #6

Yes, we just won the top of the ticket without them. Now if we can rein in our resident... brush Nov 2020 #7

"Democratic socialist" policies are popular... dawg day Nov 2020 #10

Please. It's not rocket science. The word "socialist" is toxic to millions of voters. brush Nov 2020 #11

I always ask those who are so scared of socialism dawg day Nov 2020 #12

Even if they can't define it or confuse it with fascism, they know they don't like it. brush Nov 2020 #13

I'm just not sure that those people would ever vote for a Democrat-- dawg day Nov 2020 #16

Let's hope so. Let's also hope the they weren't taught by their daddies to hate socialism too... brush Nov 2020 #17

Much better to call it social-democratic... keep_left Nov 2020 #19

True enough. We lost several seats in the House because of it. brush Nov 2020 #20

Even among White Working class, those who say the economy is important to them voted Biden JI7 Nov 2020 #8

I live in Red State 'Murika (70% voted for Fat Nixon), so this is what I have seen..... ssgbryan Nov 2020 #18

Does he ever actually listen to people and look at the evidence ? JI7 Nov 2020 #9

Pass laws that revent authoritarian options SmartVoter22 Nov 2020 #14

Trump fought for tax cuts for rich folk Skittles Nov 2020 #15

They see Republicans as being on their side Kablooie Nov 2020 #21