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BobTheSubgenius

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14. I would wholeheartedly back such a program.
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 02:53 PM
Dec 2020

I guess I actually am, as opposed to "would." Just the concomitant redistribution of wealth would make a huge difference, let alone the long term effects.

Just one quibble, though. So many people hearken back to the golden times of 1950 to 1980, or whenever you stop counting. The post WW2 world had never even been glimpsed before, let alone existed.

Almost HALF of all goods manufactured in the world were made in the US. The vast majority of privately-owned telephones and automobiles were owned by the American public.

America ramped up production to an astonishing degree in WW2, and made a mind-boggling number of airplanes, tanks, ships and the like. Turning that capability to non-military uses was completely unprecedented.

Europe, from the Spanish border to the east edge of Poland was in various stages of destruction - Britain's Empire unravelled, France, the lowland countries and Italy were heavily damaged, and Germany was all but flattened.

Russia turned its attention not to competing economically with the US, but securing buffer territories to blunt aggression from the West. If you look at Russia's history, it's not hard to see why they did that.

The US had no real competition to speak of for several years after the war, and things were so lop-sided and desperate that American leaders felt compelled to mitigate the suffering of the people, and help level the field at a national level to hopefully forestall another Fascist rise, or a big swing to the left.

These are conditions that will hopefully never be duplicated, or even approached.

That we ever allowed Reagan to be so lionized- despite his absolute destruction of truth, his racism hlthe2b Dec 2020 #1
Too many Americans have forgotten how Reagan wrecked the economy dlk Dec 2020 #2
Most if these make sense except for #1 SCantiGOP Dec 2020 #3
Tough love, tough love Rural_Progressive Dec 2020 #7
The reason for the Red State welfare is that the Red states have such low property taxes and low LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #11
Red State Welfare -- only reduced? No! Let's end it by only letting Federal NCjack Dec 2020 #4
Not the citizens. Their leaders will become more lazy and crooked AllyCat Dec 2020 #31
I do not like labelling people as lazy, but that is the style Red senators use NCjack Dec 2020 #32
Yup, we have a war on broad grounds to fight bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #5
Lots of good ideas except "End Red State welfare." KS Toronado Dec 2020 #6
Excellent! cp Dec 2020 #8
If only.... TheRickles Dec 2020 #9
Stop subsidizing fossil fuel. rickyhall Dec 2020 #10
Sounds good. Jay25 Dec 2020 #12
Personally I'd like to see the Retrumplican Party receive... mwooldri Dec 2020 #13
I would wholeheartedly back such a program. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #14
I neglected to even mention Japan. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #16
Thanks for that analysis. I also think the Marshall Plan and assistance to other countries erronis Dec 2020 #24
Frankly, ANY move to roll back something Reagan put in place calimary Dec 2020 #15
Here, here! FakeNoose Dec 2020 #17
Republicans in general. Get money out of their hands. ffr Dec 2020 #18
standing ready to vote my ass off for this panoply, and rain some truth upon the power bringthePaine Dec 2020 #19
TH is a glimmer of light in the darkness.. Imallin4Joe Dec 2020 #20
These are all good policy positions. I also very much advocate a new PatrickforO Dec 2020 #21
What are these "multiple ways around" Supreme Court decisions like Citizens United, etc.? LudwigPastorius Dec 2020 #22
One other thought - if we force corporations to PatrickforO Dec 2020 #23
I like the way you laid that out, Thomhartmann. Now we need to get a "think tank" together to BComplex Dec 2020 #25
K&R Blue Owl Dec 2020 #26
I'm seeing a lot of posts agreeing with these ideas with the exception of punishing the red states.. Enterstageleft Dec 2020 #27
I'd love to see these things happen. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2020 #28
I don't think 74-91 percent is fair questionseverything Dec 2020 #29
This is perfect Thom! AllyCat Dec 2020 #30
Agree 100% colsohlibgal Dec 2020 #33
Yes, the world will be a better place. BlueWavePsych Dec 2020 #34
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