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Martin68

(22,749 posts)
23. Thanks for the thoughtful and understanding reply.
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:08 AM
Apr 2021

Yes, language must be related to "reality" and we assume must include something like nouns, verbs and adjectives because that is the only way WE know how to communicate our understanding of reality. I'm not sure we can get around that, but who knows? Maybe verbs are not essential?

I moved to Japan from my 2-year Peace Corps teaching assignment in Liberia, West Africa. I loved teaching English in Japan because the school where I taught was a two-year program with five hours a day, five days a week. The first 6 months were spent largely gaining the student's trust that they could speak English without being laughed at, and by the last 6 months we were discussing English short stories, current video news, and really interesting intercultural communication topics. I lived in downtown Tokyo, and after marrying a Japanese woman we lived in a Tokyo suburb 45 minutes by train from my school.

We moved back to the States in 1998, I got a Masters in science teaching at UVA, and ended up teaching conservation (my major was a biology) and then taking a position as a field technician in watershed management and water quality protection education. I retired in 2019.

Thanks for this dialog. Language will always be my primary interest.

By the way, Okinawa is an amazing island. My wife and I took a trip visiting Naha in Okinawa and then island hopping down the Ryukyu island chain that stretches almost all the way to Taiwan. A wonderful island culture and amazing coral reefs.

There is evidence that some birds can communicate pictures. PurgedVoter Apr 2021 #1
I think it's interesting that we worry about communicating with aliens but we cant communicate mitch96 Apr 2021 #2
I was thinking the same thing. Why not practice with the animals who live on our own planet. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #6
Absolutely! We need to get much better at deciphering animal languages. lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #13
Yes deciphering ancient Earth texts would also be a great way to figure out alien languages. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #14
As far as we know, animals do not have "languages." Communicating with sound is not necessarily Martin68 Apr 2021 #15
We don't really know. The study of animal language has been based upon human language. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #16
Chomsky's theories are only one approach to language analysis. If he is right, though, then Martin68 Apr 2021 #17
It is hard to argue with Chomsky's claim that language is innate, wired-in, a Darwinian adaptation. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #19
I bow to your experience, education ad skill set. While I don't have a degree in language, I Martin68 Apr 2021 #21
You seem very knowledgeable about linguistics and Chomsky's work. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #22
Thanks for the thoughtful and understanding reply. Martin68 Apr 2021 #23
Interesting. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #24
Reminds me of a humorous Kurt Vonnegut story, the aliens communicated by farting and tap dancing Walleye Apr 2021 #3
There are ancient languages we can't decipher exboyfil Apr 2021 #4
"ancient languages we can't decipher".. I wonder how much different this is than decoding mitch96 Apr 2021 #10
In a sense proves the point exboyfil Apr 2021 #11
" Codebreaking requires a Rosetta stone of sorts" mitch96 Apr 2021 #12
Yes, it would be a very interesting field of research! Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #5
Forget aliens and other species on this planet. We, as humans, have difficulty communicating with niyad Apr 2021 #7
Look for a preponderance of 'e's. keithbvadu2 Apr 2021 #8
Well, so far we haven't cracked the codes of dogs barking or cats screeching at each other... TreasonousBastard Apr 2021 #9
We are working on it. Marcuse Apr 2021 #20
Scientists have always assumed communication with intelligent alien life would start with Martin68 Apr 2021 #18
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