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Hortensis

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34. To my mind his 30 years in DC appear as almost nothing but failed opportunities
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 12:11 PM
Aug 2022

to achieve what he wanted to. A few years ago Sanders told a newly elected congressman (according to the latter) that serving in congress was a complete waste of everyone's time, which I take to mean he shares my evaluation but applies it to everyone.

This isn't about ideology but about expectations based on past performance: Over 30 years he typically voted for Democratic legislation he usually criticized bitterly, but was unable to gain acceptance and support for ideas he considered much better and constantly advocated to everyone who'd listen.

My observation is that over that 30 years in DC Sanders has demonstrated one outstanding personal talent and one legislative ability: A talent for energizing political speaking, charismatic populist leader type, which we saw in 2016. And ability to rename post offices; if I recall, he has two such successes on his record.

So, based on performance it's not realistic to expect that he might belatedly "leverage" positive change to this bill. At this point the Repubs, and he, are offering amendments that are instead expected be rejected during the "votarama" period before passage. The usual purpose is to create soundbites for to promote selves in reelection campaigns and to attack opponents.

(Btw, anyone else remember that Sanders did not use his power as budget committee head to insist on a minimum wage increase to $12 from $7.25 (!), which both Manchin and Biden suggested they could support? Huge missed opportunity that did not transform the lives of the millions still living on $7.25.)

He's consistent if nothing else. Phoenix61 Aug 2022 #1
Bernie has more leverage now. Uncle Joe Aug 2022 #2
Manchinwants his pipeline but I don't think Sinema Phoenix61 Aug 2022 #3
No, Uncle Joe Aug 2022 #4
Is that entirely accurate? lapucelle Aug 2022 #9
It's accurate in the primary point being that hedge fund managers Uncle Joe Aug 2022 #10
So it's not entirely accurate? lapucelle Aug 2022 #12
Logical conclusion, those are the primary beneficiaries which you don't dispute. Uncle Joe Aug 2022 #14
How is that a logical conclusion? lapucelle Aug 2022 #15
Buybacks are not mandatory and thus not universal, taxes on micro-transactions pretty much are. Uncle Joe Aug 2022 #18
Yes...and? How does that support the claim? lapucelle Aug 2022 #22
That has been the case for over a year with Build Back Better, Uncle Joe Aug 2022 #23
It may have been claimed for over a year, but it's obviously not the case, lapucelle Aug 2022 #25
If that were true, why wasn't he involved in the discussions between Schumer and Manchin? TexasTowelie Aug 2022 #6
Why did Manchin and Sinema tank the Build Back Better Bill? Uncle Joe Aug 2022 #7
I asked first, but I'll answer you anyway even though you ignored my questions. TexasTowelie Aug 2022 #8
"Bernie doesn't have any more leverage now than he did previously." Me. Aug 2022 #16
You are correct LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #29
He seems shocked about this bill. sheshe2 Aug 2022 #28
Telling Isn't It...In So Many Ways Me. Aug 2022 #30
Yes, it sure is. sheshe2 Aug 2022 #31
Bernie's vote is taken for granted 867-5309. Aug 2022 #5
The story the OP links to says that Sanders is a "we'ii see" on the bill. lapucelle Aug 2022 #11
The video in the OP offers even more substance in regards to Bernie's position on the issue. n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2022 #13
Thanks, but I've heard the stump speech. lapucelle Aug 2022 #17
Yes and accurately so. n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2022 #21
Senate leadership was prepared to counter false claims about the bill. lapucelle Aug 2022 #24
Biden's Build Back Better Plan Will 'Ease' Inflation, 15 Nobel Prize Economists Say Uncle Joe Aug 2022 #26
Those economists said that a year ago. The economic outlook and conditions are very different now. lapucelle Aug 2022 #27
That Really Ticks Me Off Me. Aug 2022 #20
His "leverage" opportunity would be voting with the Repubs to kill. Hortensis Aug 2022 #32
Grrrrr Me. Aug 2022 #33
We're going to get this now and then after November, when we have more reps and Senator onecaliberal Aug 2022 #19
To my mind his 30 years in DC appear as almost nothing but failed opportunities Hortensis Aug 2022 #34
Well said mcar Aug 2022 #35
I agree with your analysls LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #36
Well said, Hortensis. sheshe2 Aug 2022 #39
No no no. Fifteen bucks minimum wage is the magic number. betsuni Aug 2022 #40
The Inflation Reduction Act has passed in the Senate LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #37
Great! Now, on to passage by house Democrats next Friday. Hortensis Aug 2022 #38
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