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merrily

(45,251 posts)
4. What if Maria Shriver hit Schwartzenegger, when he was in shape,
Wed Jul 30, 2014, 08:46 AM
Jul 2014

and he hit her "back" without pulling any punches, so to speak?

Doesn't differing size and strength play any role? Proportionality? What about the idea that the correct response to violence is almost always to remove yourself, if you possibly can, without putting yourself or anyone else into even greater danger.

I understand that some victims of domestic violence, regardless of gender, are stronger than their abusers, but were any of the statements involved qualified by stronger and weaker, or was it just about women and men? (Domestic violence exists in some same gender relationships as well.)

And what about putting out the idea that women provoke men into hitting them without a smack down of the person who originated those statements? (Not saying Whoopi didn't smack him down.)

If you count up all the cases of domestic violence in this country in male female situations, how many women have been landed in the hospital or morgue because of it, versus how many males? So, how dangerous are generalized statements that are unqualified, even as to proportionality, and that imply that physical violence against women is okay, if you have alleged been "provoked" into it?

Every male abuser I ever witnessed or heard of thought, in the moment, that he'd been provoked into hitting.

Whoopi does have a point. safeinOhio Jul 2014 #1
What if Maria Shriver hit Schwartzenegger, when he was in shape, merrily Jul 2014 #4
What if Maria Shriver safeinOhio Jul 2014 #6
Um, my post mentioned proportionality. merrily Jul 2014 #7
This is the same Whoopi who defended Roman Polanski and Mel Gibson. Crowman1979 Jul 2014 #25
wonder what she has to say about Woody Allen ... Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #31
I have loved Whoopi since the first time I heard her on a car radio, but merrily Jul 2014 #2
That is also a fair assumption for women as well as men. gordianot Jul 2014 #3
Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #5
disrespects a man? safeinOhio Jul 2014 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #9
Ok, safeinOhio Jul 2014 #11
Is that how you will punish this poster? merrily Jul 2014 #13
I don't think it's my job to punish anyone. safeinOhio Jul 2014 #16
Sorry, not buying it. The poster never asked to be treated like a woman. merrily Jul 2014 #18
It's gone now, but safeinOhio Jul 2014 #19
Yea jamzrockz Jul 2014 #20
Nope. He said women had asked for equality. He made no request at all of any kind. merrily Jul 2014 #21
No, it doesn't make you a male feminist. Or a man. Or much of a human. merrily Jul 2014 #17
Hmm jamzrockz Jul 2014 #12
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Either way, the statement is unacceptable, or should be. merrily Jul 2014 #15
Whoopi jamzrockz Jul 2014 #10
"...she spit on him first before he punched her." KansDem Jul 2014 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #22
I've never struck a woman in any way. I try to talk to them but they usually answer> BlueJazz Jul 2014 #23
Idiot. Iggo Jul 2014 #26
confused lululu Jul 2014 #27
I slapped a man once. He warned he would hit back if I did it again. In_The_Wind Jul 2014 #28
Whoopi Defends Stephen A. Smith: If You Hit a Man, Don’t Be Surprised if He Hits Back View profile The CCC Jul 2014 #29
These threads tend to devolve into people looking for an excuse to hit a woman. Iggo Jul 2014 #30
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