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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
41. The media and party elites have absolutely no impact on voter habits?
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:21 AM
Mar 2016

Funny. 'Cause when I look at FOX news I see a media outlet that works very hard ot create and foster a certain selection of beliefs and biases in its viewership. And then the viewership expresses those same beleifs and biases, without fail. They can never really articulate WHY they feel the way they do. it's just 'that's how it is" or "I know it." or some other such. What's really weird? You take a moment to throw ideas at a typical FOX viewer. standard progressive, liberal ideas. And they will support those ideas, almost always... right up until you tell them that those ideas came from Ted Kennedy. or Harry Reid. Or president Obama. Then they hate them SO MUCH, they're terrible ideas!

But i'm sure this sort of thing is only and exclusively applicable to Republican voters. Certainly. The fact that Hillary supporters uniformly HATE Bernie sanders (but like his ideas when you don't mention they're his!) and LOVE Hillary Clinton (and are never quite forthcoming about why...) has nothing, nothing at all to do with the media. Even though the media has been treating Clinton like a beloved incumbent since before she even announced her candidacy, holds her to no expectations or standards, and treats sanders like - at best - a protest candidate and, at worst, your crazy racist uncle who nobody ever talks to at Thanksgiving.

Total coincidence.

So yeah, clinton gets more voters, but I don't think we can ignore the reality of influencing factors on those voters. Especially when there's never actually any coherent argument for why they favor clinton or disfavor Sanders. it's always "just the way it is." People are easy to manipulate if you know where to aim, and one of the easiest ways to manipulate people is to tell them that they're too smart to fall for manipulation. You know. "Image is nothing. Obey your thirst. Sprite." One of the most successful ad slogans in marketing history right there, because it plays off that pride, "I'm too smart to be manipulated by advertising, and sprite gets that! I'll give them my business, even if their product tastes like sugary battery acid!"

We know - TBF Mar 2016 #1
Solidarity. mother earth Mar 2016 #3
Well put Baobab Mar 2016 #54
That was good. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #2
My pleasure, Uncle Joe. mother earth Mar 2016 #4
He almost lost me in the beginning, but he's right about a lot of this. Gregorian Mar 2016 #5
I think everyone underestimates Bernie. mother earth Mar 2016 #7
Not as much as people overestimate Hillary Baobab Mar 2016 #56
True. nt mother earth Mar 2016 #61
Excellent. elleng Mar 2016 #6
Thank you for this remarkable and refreshing video Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #8
Right, do what you were going to do anyway & help get him nominated. This isn't over unless we mother earth Mar 2016 #9
When you think of it Doitnow Mar 2016 #14
Yep. Phlem Mar 2016 #10
The important message to glean from this is, "Keep supporting Bernie and work to expand his Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #11
K&R. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #12
Kick and Rec warrprayer Mar 2016 #13
Full of excellent insights! RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #15
K & R n/t Oldtimeralso Mar 2016 #16
sanders supporters ought to go on the offensive certainot Mar 2016 #17
Great find, mother earth Nickel79 Mar 2016 #18
Don't forget the biggest obstacle calguy Mar 2016 #19
great post Tragl1 Mar 2016 #20
I think Sanders' path to the nomination was blocked by the 2.5 million more voters that voted Trust Buster Mar 2016 #21
Yep leftofcool Mar 2016 #23
Well, there is that. Politicub Mar 2016 #31
Of course Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #34
I suppose those 2.5 million voters paid no attention to the Clintontrump networks? Scootaloo Mar 2016 #40
Some facts are just ignored. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #45
and even that was controversial Baobab Mar 2016 #58
True enough. sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #46
Not everyone is getting his message thanks to the Big Money Corp-Media. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #53
"Sanders Path to Victory Blocked by Media and Party Elites .... " Botany Mar 2016 #22
Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #32
what utter bullshit dlwickham Mar 2016 #24
Depends on what bull udder sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #47
what a scintillating critique! corkhead Mar 2016 #51
Thanks for posting nt Rebkeh Mar 2016 #25
Forgot the voters who actually prefer Hillary over sanders... beachbumbob Mar 2016 #26
The media and party elites have absolutely no impact on voter habits? Scootaloo Mar 2016 #41
How many voters were there FlaGranny Mar 2016 #43
Yeah, and the voters apparently. nt OhZone Mar 2016 #27
And Math, that damned magic stuff n/t sharp_stick Mar 2016 #28
Yeah, that MUST be it. johnp3907 Mar 2016 #29
Don't Know If I Should Call This Corruption OR SADNESS! ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #30
Jill Stein Baobab Mar 2016 #55
I Know A Lot About Her, Like Her... BUT I'm Feelin' The Bern! n/t ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #60
Excellent video, thanks for posting. dgauss Mar 2016 #33
"negative comments" Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #62
most perplexing to me is labor snowy owl Mar 2016 #35
they are busy surviving and raising their families hopemountain Mar 2016 #36
Yes, I think that IS one difficulty: The dumbing down of the U.S. electorate... Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #39
No, Bernie's path to the nomination is blocked by Democratic voters who prefer Hillary. nt SunSeeker Mar 2016 #37
Not really. Bernie's big problem noiretextatique Mar 2016 #50
Hillary assures steady progress. Bernie has a lot of big problems. SunSeeker Mar 2016 #52
informative share - thanks mother earth nt hopemountain Mar 2016 #38
K&R! bvf Mar 2016 #42
Silly Me Uhmercan Irishman Mar 2016 #44
AMEN oldandhappy Mar 2016 #48
Jimmy Carter said USA is an oligarchy noiretextatique Mar 2016 #49
The propaganda has gotten out of control in the USA these days. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #57
Kick and R BeanMusical Mar 2016 #59
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