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82. "As of today, I am not in favor of what I have learned about it." --Sec. Clinton on the TPP, 10/7/15
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:29 PM
Jun 2016
Sec. Clinton did not say - "As of today, I am not in favor of the TPP."

Sec. Clinton did not say - "As of today, I am not in favor of it."

Sec. Clinton did say - "As of today, I am not in favor of what I have learned about it."

What exactly did she learn about the TPP?

She may have learned that many groups oppose the TPP. In which case, her statement means that she is not in favor of the fact that many groups oppose the TPP.

One should keep in mind that parsing sentences very carefully is what former President Bill Clinton is known for - though the impeachment was ridiculous: "It depends upon what the meaning of 'is' is." That was his formulation.

Sec. Clinton is, at least, as smart as former President Clinton and may be equally inclined to parse uncomfortable or disadvantageous statements rather carefully.

Her actual thoughts on the TPP as evinced in her emails should be released prior to the Democratic convention, rather than after the election.

2 more days....2 more days.... chillfactor Jun 2016 #1
Yes Two More Days until speaking the truth becomes a DU "violation". Sad really. nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #4
Yes it is especially since info on her and bill is going to be slowly leaked out. classykaren Jun 2016 #30
Don't you dare post any of it or your sorry ass will be run out of here. Hoppy Jun 2016 #71
Sad, but maybe withholding the truth works to Hillary's advantage... her lack of transparency is prolly a smart campaign move. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #91
So, yeah. I was just wondering... Stryder Jun 2016 #88
Not honoring a FOIA request is garbage? passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #8
And just why would we want the public to have the truth about Hillary's emails? We don't, A Simple Game Jun 2016 #10
The FBI has never confirmed there's an investigation! scscholar Jun 2016 #76
Not that this deserves a response but... Trump won't care. n/t A Simple Game Jun 2016 #77
bullshit AntiBank Jun 2016 #84
No, the FBI is the Federal BUREAU of Investigation... so maybe it's keepin it's criminal investigation of Hillary's emails hidden in a Bureau somewhere... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #92
This will haunt her during her presidency w potential impeachment and slowing her ability as Prez. Pauldg47 Jun 2016 #85
It will also let Trump define the crime and it's seriousness. A Simple Game Jun 2016 #97
You can't be serious Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #12
Yep, two more days until the Echo Chamber is in place. Facts be damned. arcane1 Jun 2016 #14
Hello! MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #61
Hey I'm blonde and 840high Jun 2016 #62
heh-heh... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #64
Likewise SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #113
I'm cautiously optimistic... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #125
You may want to re-read the rules.. phazed0 Jun 2016 #21
Right, the hell with CNN if they're going to put facts out there The Blue Flower Jun 2016 #29
CNN will be designated a right-wing hate site and banned from DU. -none Jun 2016 #49
in your dreams swhisper1 Jun 2016 #78
Maybe I should have added the sarcasm thingy? -none Jun 2016 #86
at least a sarcastic smilie, yeah, news sources cant be banned swhisper1 Jun 2016 #93
JPR -none Jun 2016 #99
already there swhisper1 Jun 2016 #100
Thumb up. -none Jun 2016 #103
Fucking pathetic lastone Jun 2016 #32
You dream of a purge? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #48
What is untrue about that report? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #54
not a word is untruth swhisper1 Jun 2016 #79
yep 840high Jun 2016 #80
This is Jake Tapper reporting from CNN--a Mainstream US Media Site! KoKo Jun 2016 #67
It is better to know how to learn than to know. Wilms Jun 2016 #72
Wow. Red Knight Jun 2016 #75
Historically, other countries have tried this type of Party Loyalty before Principle. bvar22 Jun 2016 #110
One does hope that you will stop.... n/t xocet Jun 2016 #83
But, but Hillary is a REAL Democrat 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #2
...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #63
What a surprise! Looks like Obama's 'Hope and Change' is working for Hillary. jalan48 Jun 2016 #3
Wait until the Wiki-leaks drop. zalinda Jun 2016 #6
It certainly won't affect her base. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #9
It won't affect this Bernie supporter. My mind was made up about Hillary A Simple Game Jun 2016 #15
Here here! phazed0 Jun 2016 #22
Amen. senz Jun 2016 #58
...! Informed People! KoKo Jun 2016 #68
Not just Sanders supporters. These Nafta Cafta Hafta trade bills are killing our jobs. Zen Democrat Jun 2016 #18
I still think they will vote for her anyway. passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #19
Well wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #33
The us all refers to the big club. zeemike Jun 2016 #73
Absolutely wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #74
Had a weird,quick flash of a thought Stryder Jun 2016 #90
Very true about these duplicitous trade 'agreements' like NAFTA appalachiablue Jun 2016 #55
It may hurt her with some Independents TDale313 Jun 2016 #31
I think it's been the corporate party for some time passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #36
Independents are not going to vote for her. onecaliberal Jun 2016 #42
I suspect you're right. TDale313 Jun 2016 #44
I'm pretty sure they already know, that's why they won't vote for her because she lies. onecaliberal Jun 2016 #59
This is especially ironic, because her fan base WILL be affected. bvar22 Jun 2016 #111
this should be pinned, thank you swhisper1 Jun 2016 #120
Yes, it is. It's the TPP. nt zentrum Jun 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #5
seems legit ! stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #7
What a load of crap, Jake Tapper. Shame! yallerdawg Jun 2016 #11
re: " 'Gold standard.' All refuted over and over. " thesquanderer Jun 2016 #34
One last time before Monday... yallerdawg Jun 2016 #37
you convienently leave out that future presidents cannot make changes without being sued swhisper1 Jun 2016 #95
Since TPP is just another issue... yallerdawg Jun 2016 #107
Congress isnt considering it? says who? swhisper1 Jun 2016 #108
"Fast track" is Congressional authorization to negotiate the trade agreement. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #112
what scares me is no amendments or filibusters, but more than that- the secrecy swhisper1 Jun 2016 #115
It's not secret - or scary. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #117
It is scary that trade deals that do not serve the people and do serve corporations is rammed swhisper1 Jun 2016 #119
she wrote it with her corporate cronies. That is not a lie- it is documented swhisper1 Jun 2016 #109
Why is Obama holding her E-Mails until After the Election, then? KoKo Jun 2016 #69
TPP -Trans-Pacific Partnership yallerdawg Jun 2016 #102
I get my TPP info from European sources, who have alot to lose swhisper1 Jun 2016 #105
she is hiding her role in it swhisper1 Jun 2016 #106
K&R felix_numinous Jun 2016 #13
Agreed. nt phazed0 Jun 2016 #24
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #16
I'm surprised to see and hear Korporate Media discussing this matter so honestly 2banon Jun 2016 #17
violation of the law aside Phil1934 Jun 2016 #20
Presidents automatically have security clearance. And briefings begin during pnwmom Jun 2016 #26
No, he won't listen to them. He listens to his own "brain". Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #50
Did felix_numinous Jun 2016 #35
Presidents have automatic security clearances without going through pnwmom Jun 2016 #81
More old news re-packaged as new news. Justice Watch and the Rethugs pnwmom Jun 2016 #23
That sounds like an unfounded excuse to me, not a reason. nt phazed0 Jun 2016 #27
This is an old story. Been there, done that. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #28
bullshit, this is likely a coverup swhisper1 Jun 2016 #121
No wonder so many Obama voters don't trust Bernie. pnwmom Jun 2016 #122
on trade, he has lost my trust swhisper1 Jun 2016 #123
Remember when the Bush administration OnyxCollie Jun 2016 #38
+1 840high Jun 2016 #65
Some favor Obama did for the Hillster. forest444 Jun 2016 #39
Ohhhh NO,,, EMAILS,,,,, Oh the horror of it all!,,Drink! Cryptoad Jun 2016 #40
You don't say. How could this be? Are you telling me Obama's in collusion with Phlem Jun 2016 #41
Legacy stained for good... onecaliberal Jun 2016 #43
Anyone else notice Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2016 #45
"The average FOIA request from the State Dept. normally take 111 days this one will take 489 days Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #46
What is she Hiding? She says she's been "forthcoming" about Everything! KoKo Jun 2016 #70
Her pants are on fire (again). bvar22 Jun 2016 #114
Will the 20th ever come? Laser102 Jun 2016 #47
CNN doesn't stop on the 20th. Neither will the truth. earthshine Jun 2016 #51
Hillary can say whatever she wants - the TPP passage will be on Obama's watch floppyboo Jun 2016 #52
Is anyone surprised Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #53
Obama is a HERO b/c what's sauce for the goose bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #56
It is outrageous. They are hiding Hillary. Hiding her from the American people. senz Jun 2016 #57
"As of today, I'm against after what I LEARNED about it"... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #60
I will never vote for evil. 840high Jun 2016 #66
"As of today, I am not in favor of what I have learned about it." --Sec. Clinton on the TPP, 10/7/15 xocet Jun 2016 #82
I can tell you what she "learned" about the TPP. bvar22 Jun 2016 #116
Yes. You are preaching to the choir. xocet Jun 2016 #124
What a surprise .... Not ! n/t DustyJoe Jun 2016 #87
There is something wrong with that decision… midnight Jun 2016 #89
Apparently... ReRe Jun 2016 #94
to some degree, but I doubt he knew she was soliciting donors to the Foundation for pay to play swhisper1 Jun 2016 #96
Me neither, swhisper1 ReRe Jun 2016 #98
Payback to his owners. It's not that difficult to figure out. onecaliberal Jun 2016 #104
As in "Or else"? eom ReRe Jun 2016 #126
Here is what Hillary should do Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #101
Its a little too late for Hillary to run an "honest" campaign. bvar22 Jun 2016 #118
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