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TreasonousBastard

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31. Town churches reflected their parishioners, but...
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 09:55 PM
Sep 2012

William Wilberforce in Britain and Quakers, Moravians, and Baptists in the US led abolition forces. Garrison got his start at a Quaker paper, and names like Lucretia Mott pop in the strangest places. The Second Great Awakening had slavery as one of its issues.

Slavery is in the end a moral issue, and when you have moral issues religion inevitably wiggles its way into the argument-- usually managing to be on both sides.



They may be right about the end of biological life if Cleita Sep 2012 #1
My mother used to call these people "holy rollers" me b zola Sep 2012 #2
Jello for brains. nt valerief Sep 2012 #3
Some Jehovas came to the house yesterday. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #4
Just offer them a beer or a glass of wine and pour yourself one. You will see them run not southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #8
The guy was actually kind of nice. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2012 #10
We had a real nice JW come over to my house. I offered him a drink like a pepsi or tea southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #15
well, darlin', I believe in rapture, but it doesn't have anything to do with religion. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2012 #16
Well darlin' good for you. I not bothered by it. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #20
You are so right - My husband (before I knew him) had a friend that did JUST THIS. Told them onecent Sep 2012 #18
It is funny. Funnier was my mother-in-law that did that to a neighbor. He is a religious freak. southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #19
tears are washed away with the blood of billions of people Schema Thing Sep 2012 #25
Organized religion has done their part in instilling the fear of death to control people for Lint Head Sep 2012 #5
+1 freshwest Sep 2012 #11
Feeling Guilt. NOT! chuckstevens Sep 2012 #6
their craving for destruction KT2000 Sep 2012 #7
Self-fulfilling prophecies also give a reason to dehumanize other humans and live only for yourself. freshwest Sep 2012 #12
Oooh - good point KT2000 Sep 2012 #32
It struck me listening to a very well off Christian friend who has been moaning about money... freshwest Sep 2012 #35
It's not as if this rhetoric is new Major Nikon Sep 2012 #9
Jehovah's Witnesses have some pretty strange interpretations of the bible IMO, but they are NOT truth2power Sep 2012 #22
I'm not sure what a normal interpretation of the bible would even look like Major Nikon Sep 2012 #24
I was raised as one. Schema Thing Sep 2012 #27
I saw them as relatively benign until that one part you mentioned here, was explained to me. freshwest Sep 2012 #38
concurring bigrob35 Sep 2012 #68
There are a LOT of reasons people don't like JW tkmorris Sep 2012 #69
Thank you, bigrob. When I was in high school (many, many years ago) truth2power Sep 2012 #70
I tend to agree. I guess my experience is different than many. See my response, below. n/t truth2power Sep 2012 #71
they are deceived and deceive others. zeemike Sep 2012 #13
Israel will be the site of Jesus's second coming?,,,, benld74 Sep 2012 #14
It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't come off as if they were superior. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #17
Creepy! These people are batshit-crazy... truth2power Sep 2012 #21
That I hadn't heard before watching this. Richard D Sep 2012 #28
Beneath the Planet of the Apes Gabby Hayes Sep 2012 #46
These ARE NOT the kind of people we AsahinaKimi Sep 2012 #64
ZZZZzzzzzzz... TreasonousBastard Sep 2012 #23
I have no problem ignoring how pulpits were "crucial" in flighting slavery and Jim Crow Major Nikon Sep 2012 #30
Town churches reflected their parishioners, but... TreasonousBastard Sep 2012 #31
Religion has always been a piss poor basis for ethics and still is today Major Nikon Sep 2012 #33
Religion, or just Christianity? Your argument seems to be primarily against Western... TreasonousBastard Sep 2012 #41
Ah yes, the old tired well debunked argument that atheism fueled Hitler and Stalin's genocides Major Nikon Sep 2012 #42
I didn't say atheism caused anything, I simply mentioned that... TreasonousBastard Sep 2012 #43
This was your assertion, verbatim... Major Nikon Sep 2012 #44
You may remain clueless, for all I care. "Reason" may not have killed, but... TreasonousBastard Sep 2012 #45
You can resort to name calling, for all I care Major Nikon Sep 2012 #47
So, you have no alternative ethic yourself, is that it? Just winging it while... TreasonousBastard Sep 2012 #48
Sure I do Major Nikon Sep 2012 #49
I should apologize for your being a fathead? Not any time soon. TreasonousBastard Sep 2012 #63
Funny thing about survival.... enki23 Sep 2012 #36
So I've heard ailsagirl Sep 2012 #26
Blasphemers. progressoid Sep 2012 #29
He! he! a TomRobbinsarian! patrice Sep 2012 #60
I haven't read that one. progressoid Sep 2012 #61
There's a sock and some other stuff and it's also about Israel & the US and some other stuff . . . patrice Sep 2012 #62
I had to watch it in 3 pieces as I was running around. Snarkoleptic Sep 2012 #34
Religion is stupid and b757pilot Sep 2012 #37
How do these folks feel about b757pilot Sep 2012 #39
Bookmarking -- thanks. gateley Sep 2012 #40
I watched this entire, documentary of stupid. EnviroBat Sep 2012 #50
True Story: People need to understand that this is a movement that is willing to do whatever they patrice Sep 2012 #51
Have you all noticed that "Liberty" University has major facilities funded by the LaHaye, as in the patrice Sep 2012 #52
My goodness! What a convenient excuse for building KILLING machines, for such a hand$$$ome patrice Sep 2012 #53
I get harassed in front of my own home by those nuts Newsie Sep 2012 #54
Wow. I'm speechless. I was raised with that shit, and I'm still speechless. mike_c Sep 2012 #55
Anybody besides me notice how much Rev. Hagee resembles Jonathan Winters in "The Loved One"? Bette Noir Sep 2012 #56
Closed with an add to become a "minister" with online course. HFW! patrice Sep 2012 #57
These. ARE. blasphemers. Practically every word out of their mouths reveals they equate patrice Sep 2012 #58
100K responded to Bush criticism of Israel = THESE are the people who CAUSED the war on Iraq. patrice Sep 2012 #59
At about 41:58 Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2012 #65
This isn't Orthodox Christianity thatwhichisnt Sep 2012 #66
you are correct, It is not even historic Evangelicalism, However, among the "Christian-right" Douglas Carpenter Sep 2012 #67
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