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rocktivity

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43. I winced when I learned that Lady Gaga was in the newest remake of A Star Is Born
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:20 AM
Nov 2018

Last edited Thu Nov 30, 2023, 01:11 PM - Edit history (20)

I knew instantly that it wouldn't work for me because her voice is too generic.

I had no problem imagining the characters played by her predecessors Judy Garland (in 1954) and Barbra Streisand (in 1976) being told, "Sorry, but while you have the right voice, you don't have the right look," and needing someone further up the ladder to help them through the door.

To his credit, director/co-star Bradley Cooper realized that in these times, Gaga's character would be told "Sorry, but you don't have either the right voice OR right looks," and has her complain instead that she's not good-looking enough for her songwriting abilities to be noticed, never mind respected. But even that is a crock, of course: if her lyrics WERE that good, they would have been noticed by someone who could give her the opportunity to sell them to the kind of vocalists who could make them BOTH rich and famous!








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Yes. It is worse. skylucy Nov 2018 #1
Yes DUgosh Nov 2018 #13
Much, much worse. joshdawg Nov 2018 #83
It is worse!! Left-over Nov 2018 #120
That's ALWAYS what you heard on the radio jmowreader Nov 2018 #159
To me, past music back in the 50's, 60's and 70's was far better. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #2
Late 60's to early 70's joshdawg Nov 2018 #86
Definitely ... and I thought back then it would last forever. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #94
Yeah, and a damned shame it didn't. joshdawg Nov 2018 #100
Absolutely agree! llmart Nov 2018 #122
Seemed like every week a new super group was forming... OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2018 #135
When I was teaching junior/senior high school, maddiemom Nov 2018 #140
Yeah. I kind of feel like Joe does about it. ooky Nov 2018 #202
I stopped at a light recently and the lady next to me had Michael Jackson blaring and ... CurtEastPoint Nov 2018 #3
lol OriginalGeek Nov 2018 #102
That Must Have Been Fun! ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #125
I had to youtube that so I could do it too OriginalGeek Nov 2018 #134
Cool! ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #150
This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #180
You have to pick and choose. There is some great stuff but it isn't easy to find NRaleighLiberal Nov 2018 #4
Pat was my idol for many, many years Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #24
The Way Up is the peak of what The Pat Metheny Group was capable of....amazing. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2018 #26
I have the bluray of The Way Up....it is incredible... Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #30
I saw him play it live sweetloukillbot Nov 2018 #49
Only the good stuff lasts zipplewrath Nov 2018 #80
absolutely! with any art, what one hears in their formative years plays a big role NRaleighLiberal Nov 2018 #90
I'm pretty eclectic zipplewrath Nov 2018 #95
My dad was a big Jack Teagarden fan! OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2018 #136
I'm with ya... wcmagumba Nov 2018 #5
I agree. However Rock n Roll has always been for the young. Va Lefty Nov 2018 #6
Rock will keep you young OriginalGeek Nov 2018 #105
Maiden is still great live. sweetloukillbot Nov 2018 #165
Which show are you going to? jmowreader Nov 2018 #168
If I get to go OriginalGeek Nov 2018 #195
PNC is a great venue......If you have seats..... aquaman Nov 2018 #200
I decided to go to the Tacoma Dome anyway jmowreader Nov 2018 #201
There is so much good music today GusBob Nov 2018 #7
Well put jberryhill Nov 2018 #14
We need more of a shared platform. LisaM Nov 2018 #55
Thats what Im talking about! GusBob Nov 2018 #72
But I don't always want a unique path. LisaM Nov 2018 #119
Music is not divisive sorry GusBob Nov 2018 #174
I mean that thirty years ago, it would be common for people to all know some of the same songs. LisaM Nov 2018 #193
My kids never listen to the radio. Codeine Nov 2018 #76
First the came for the big bopper GusBob Nov 2018 #176
You are objectively correct. Ron Obvious Nov 2018 #8
Music seems less and less complex. Less instrumentation. Less composition. Yavin4 Nov 2018 #11
With all due respect GusBob Nov 2018 #20
Great post. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #22
Thanks for the suggestions. Keep going. enough Nov 2018 #77
You make a very good point. I wish someone would respond to it. Silver Gaia Nov 2018 #188
Try a little math rock. Codeine Nov 2018 #71
I love how prog is acceptable now sweetloukillbot Nov 2018 #162
I was three years old when my favorite prog Codeine Nov 2018 #163
My first concert was Genesis in 82 sweetloukillbot Nov 2018 #166
The music of today is worse because it is no longer dependent on musicianship rocktivity Nov 2018 #9
Agree, would add Lady Gaga flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #36
I agree about that era shanny Nov 2018 #39
Lady Gaga? See post #43, LOL! rocktivity Nov 2018 #45
I find Lady Gaga horribly repetitive. LakeSuperiorView Nov 2018 #115
There are any number of amazing instrumentalists Codeine Nov 2018 #73
+100 Duppers Nov 2018 #143
Oh...you're old... Anon-C Nov 2018 #10
Stream this commercial free station- rzemanfl Nov 2018 #12
My now 26 yr old younger son used to like a rap song that... 3catwoman3 Nov 2018 #15
IMHO, rap is pure crap. joshdawg Nov 2018 #84
Transpose your musical example down a couple of octaves PJMcK Nov 2018 #106
If You Do That. . . ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #131
I barely tolerate the pop music today. It's a generational thing. Laffy Kat Nov 2018 #16
Overwrought vocals. Nobody needs that when they are grocery shopping! LuckyLib Nov 2018 #170
corporate homogenization of writers, artists, music outlets. less diversity msongs Nov 2018 #17
Today's music can't even come close calguy Nov 2018 #18
Couldn't agree more! flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #38
Pop music, yes. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2018 #19
It's according to what kind you want... Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #21
PT is a great band ... dig me some Opeth too ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #41
Opeth continues to evolve sweetloukillbot Nov 2018 #53
Hazards of Love IV (the Drowning) is one of my top 10 favorite songs ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #108
If your tastes run to metal Codeine Nov 2018 #110
Interesting... Shoegaze w/ cookie monster vocals sweetloukillbot Nov 2018 #155
The first time I heard them Codeine Nov 2018 #160
Wow- Those San Francisco scenes are places I'm intimately familiar with, on a daily basis. NBachers Nov 2018 #173
I adore the Decemberists prudence54 Nov 2018 #152
Love Opeth...not into growling, but their other stuff is great. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #82
something for everyone! OriginalGeek Nov 2018 #107
I just discovered Haken sweetloukillbot Nov 2018 #153
Dang skippy it's worse. dae Nov 2018 #23
It's just different, that's all. If you think there isn't any good music today, you're not looking WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #25
Also, you're old when you stop growing. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #27
Give me Sinatra riverwalker Nov 2018 #28
That makes two of us. joshdawg Nov 2018 #85
For a surprise, listen to Willie Nelson's new album. rzemanfl Nov 2018 #132
His "Stardust" album is over thirty years old now. maddiemom Nov 2018 #142
Where does the time go? n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #145
I believe your tastes in music are formed by the age 30 DBoon Nov 2018 #29
I think its a muscle that needs to be exercised sweetloukillbot Nov 2018 #54
Not really fair-- dawg day Nov 2018 #31
Funny video. They didn't really have videos back then-- dawg day Nov 2018 #35
My 1st concert was Doors - Procol Harum at Winterland 1967. nt PufPuf23 Nov 2018 #196
Rat pack or rap crap? Who is going to be singing the current rap crap in fifty or sixty years? Doodley Nov 2018 #32
Every 14 year old alive now? Codeine Nov 2018 #78
I dunno OriginalGeek Nov 2018 #112
Some people still know the lyrics to Rapper's Delight after all these years JonLP24 Nov 2018 #203
I think music today is great. There is so much choice out there. violetpastille Nov 2018 #33
This video explains a big part of it Ponietz Nov 2018 #34
Interestingly, we should be less "owned" by the record industry than ever-- dawg day Nov 2018 #37
When was this video made? crazycatlady Nov 2018 #204
I must be really old dickthegrouch Nov 2018 #40
Some of today's music is just amazing and some is just plain awful. Tikki Nov 2018 #42
I winced when I learned that Lady Gaga was in the newest remake of A Star Is Born rocktivity Nov 2018 #43
"The music" is rather open-ended hibbing Nov 2018 #44
I was going to find some examples drmeow Nov 2018 #46
BIll Drummond is an interesting guy sweetloukillbot Nov 2018 #58
There's been plenty of great records in the past 10 years ... just not on the radio ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #47
Good List sweetloukillbot Nov 2018 #57
Hell ya GusBob Nov 2018 #175
There is good stuff around...check out the struts bedazzled Nov 2018 #48
Some Of It Is colsohlibgal Nov 2018 #50
great music is made everyday.. every generation gotta complain tho ;) JHan Nov 2018 #51
It depends when you were young, and music was a giant part of life. Hoyt Nov 2018 #52
How do we know what they'll think is great music in a thousand years? NotASurfer Nov 2018 #56
The stuff the play at the gym sounds like muzak....Cool music videos, but the stuff sounds flat LeftInTX Nov 2018 #59
Worse. Doreen Nov 2018 #60
There are contemporary artists that I think put out pure garbage Jake Stern Nov 2018 #61
The older generation ALWAYS complains about the younger generation. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #62
Yea verily.... mbusby Nov 2018 #63
And people always forget the crappy music Codeine Nov 2018 #79
That was my era! Love those bands. AllyCat Nov 2018 #138
Looks like they were right about that. raccoon Nov 2018 #81
the four chords that killed pop music quickesst Nov 2018 #64
I do not consider "rap" music question everything Nov 2018 #65
Elvis was famously off-key when he sang. Codeine Nov 2018 #74
When I listen to Paul Simon with headphones his voice.. Kahuna7 Nov 2018 #97
in what way is rap not music? unblock Nov 2018 #104
Buddy Rich didn't consider Elvis or Simon and Garfunkel music. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #207
The thing I find amazing is the number of young people who love music from the '60s and '70s and lunamagica Nov 2018 #66
IMO, it's more that the business side only pushes the blandest crap to the fore cemaphonic Nov 2018 #67
If you can't hum it, it isn't music demosincebirth Nov 2018 #68
Without reading any other responses, in LibDemAlways Nov 2018 #69
According to science, music nowadays is indeed qualitatively worse than in the past. DetlefK Nov 2018 #70
Songs are mixed like that for a reason, unfortunately. Codeine Nov 2018 #75
Now, that I didn't know. malthaussen Nov 2018 #99
Its much much better now ghostsinthemachine Nov 2018 #87
I will agree on what we actually get fed by the powers that be MuseRider Nov 2018 #88
For the most of it, I think 80's music was as bad as it gets. Rustynaerduwell Nov 2018 #89
Try some "Greta Van Fleet" LiberalArkie Nov 2018 #91
Totally dig these guys, too! mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #109
I guess Led Zeppelin stole enough material Codeine Nov 2018 #111
A lotta bands have tried ... GVF is actually doing it pretty well ... unlike most ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #178
For Sure StarzGuy Nov 2018 #92
Worse BillyBobBrilliant Nov 2018 #93
Industry is changing fast zipplewrath Nov 2018 #96
"All about record sales"? Codeine Nov 2018 #114
I still miss disco. nt Permanut Nov 2018 #98
The perennial returns. malthaussen Nov 2018 #101
You are just old. Like me. Every generation thinks their music is better, but each generation's Nitram Nov 2018 #103
Just gotta look....I am 65 and amaze at the young music talent beachbum bob Nov 2018 #113
Or Aretha Franklin, Tina Turner. roody Nov 2018 #116
You're old. I'm 64 and have found tons of great new music. bif Nov 2018 #117
I am 69 and my wife is 49jim Nov 2018 #118
40 years ago at the height of my music fandom Runningdawg Nov 2018 #121
"Is the music of today worse than it was 20, 30, 40, or even 50 years ago? Or am I just old?" LudwigPastorius Nov 2018 #123
I'm old too, Corgigal Nov 2018 #124
I don't think there will ever be another Freddie Mercury! Silver Gaia Nov 2018 #189
My parents said the same thing. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #126
Yes. nm. qazplm135 Nov 2018 #127
Lots of good music and artists out there ornotna Nov 2018 #128
The 60's were a complete social and cultural shift. Cattledog Nov 2018 #129
"The TRUTH Why Modern Music Is Awful" Cetacea Nov 2018 #130
yep - same thing I was going to post nt Locrian Nov 2018 #187
Hot And Cold, Yav ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #133
It seems there may be reason for that, actually. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2018 #137
Started HS in 67.... OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2018 #139
I'm biased for the late 60s/early70s GeorgeGist Nov 2018 #141
I love Stevie and EWF but yes there is good music today. mahina Nov 2018 #144
You are old. shenmue Nov 2018 #146
check out kexp in seattle Chakaconcarne Nov 2018 #147
Music peaked in 1967. It's been downhill since. SunSeeker Nov 2018 #148
You are confusing music with my life. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #151
LOL SunSeeker Nov 2018 #154
Absolutely, it's worse paulkienitz Nov 2018 #149
Excellent points. Silver Gaia Nov 2018 #190
This article says many of the hit songs are written by just two guys these days. I personally brewens Nov 2018 #156
Old people back in the 70s said that about modern music. gtar100 Nov 2018 #157
Interesting. warmfeet Nov 2018 #158
You are old. So many options are available for music today. Freethinker65 Nov 2018 #161
Both--Pop music has always been bad and you are older my friend randr Nov 2018 #164
NO, music is the same ratio of shit to classics it always was The Polack MSgt Nov 2018 #167
No, it's about the same jmowreader Nov 2018 #169
Yes, it's worse. smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #171
I have to agree with the OP... mac2766 Nov 2018 #172
of course 20, 30, 40, or even 50 years ago people were saying the exact same thing fishwax Nov 2018 #177
I think the answer is either yes or no depending on perspective Major Nikon Nov 2018 #179
. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #181
Oh yes ificandream Nov 2018 #182
You're not old. It's what the music industry is making off of young pop singers. $$$$$ !!! YOHABLO Nov 2018 #183
I'm 66 and I find better music today JohnnyRingo Nov 2018 #184
I like the current music in country, pop, hip-hop, rap and more! democratisphere Nov 2018 #185
No, it isn't. Glamrock Nov 2018 #186
Yup. I get it that there's good NEW stuff out there. Silver Gaia Nov 2018 #191
That's what Pitchfork, Onion's AV Club and similar sites Codeine Nov 2018 #198
We have seen music evolve. kentuck Nov 2018 #192
Yes and Yes. Iggo Nov 2018 #194
Oh it is so much worse! jazzcat23 Nov 2018 #197
I'm old too and catch up on new music when I'm driving. mia Nov 2018 #199
Boomers invented music. There was no music before. There has been no music since. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #205
Mozart, Beethoven, Louis Armstrong. . . ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #206
I would have said Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson, John Lee Hooker... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2018 #208
They Were Fake Too ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #209
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