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The Velveteen Ocelot

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19. You might try to think of it the way criminal defense lawyers often have to think
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 04:54 PM
Jun 2019

about some of their more loathsome clients: they are upholding the standards of their profession by providing the client with the best defense to which the law entitles him. You are likewise upholding the standards of your profession by providing this guy with the best medical care you are obligated by those standards to give him. I used to do some appellate work for a lawyer who represented some pretty despicable characters, and although I seldom interacted with them directly, I was obligated to construct the best argument the law would support, and that could theoretically bust the creep out of prison or at least get him a new trial. We almost always lost because criminal convictions are rarely overturned on appeal, and all of these dirtbags were pretty clearly guilty.

Still, we had to put aside the fact that the client was a dirtbag and just do our jobs. It's probably harder for you because you have to interact with him directly. But of course your job is to offer him appropriate medical treatment and advice regardless, as you are doing, and you'll do that until he's hauled off to prison - where he'll probably be for a very long time, as he should be. (And he probably has a lawyer who doesn't like him any more than you do, and had the additional burden of having to look at the evidence.)

He's crying cause of what's about to happen to him in prison donkeypoofed Jun 2019 #1
WTF are "skinners"? MicaelS Jun 2019 #14
Urban Dictionary to the rescue... mwooldri Jun 2019 #21
Thank you.n/t MicaelS Jun 2019 #33
His life and past are really not your business. zanana1 Jun 2019 #57
Understandable. sinkingfeeling Jun 2019 #2
I Can Understand How You Must Feel Conflicted dlk Jun 2019 #3
Good for you. Your situation and your response to this patient... EarnestPutz Jun 2019 #4
I don't know what "going up on charges" means NJCher Jun 2019 #5
No, he pretty much admitted to doing it. Aristus Jun 2019 #8
How would someone get a trial investigated in Texas. Know someone who was victim cpamomfromtexas Jun 2019 #55
There is nothing normal about an interest in kiddie porn so perhaps... TreasonousBastard Jun 2019 #6
This is how I choose to see it... Phentex Jun 2019 #9
If it matters TexasBushwhacker Jun 2019 #12
Most don't want to discuss this aspect, but we really don't know what causes this behavior hlthe2b Jun 2019 #16
Love you for all you do, Aristus. elleng Jun 2019 #7
I don't know how you medical professionals Ohiogal Jun 2019 #10
I have a lot of patients who are ex-cons. Aristus Jun 2019 #39
I don't blame you Aristus. I would treat him because I'm supposed to blueinredohio Jun 2019 #11
Why the hell would he tell you shit like that? Freelancer Jun 2019 #13
Doctor patient privilege. nocoincidences Jun 2019 #17
Addiction to pornography is very difficult to overcome..and pbmus Jun 2019 #15
Addiction is hard to understand captain queeg Jun 2019 #18
You might try to think of it the way criminal defense lawyers often have to think The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #19
That's a tough problem wryter2000 Jun 2019 #20
It must be very difficult ... kooth Jun 2019 #22
Porn addiction... sagetea Jun 2019 #23
Thank you for sharing your story. Addiction is a helluva thing. Glad to see you working through it UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #24
You should never need to apologize about offending when Speaking the truth / from the heart. MLAA Jun 2019 #30
I wish someone like this can get help. After he comes out of prison he'll still be addicted to UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #25
The typical sentence for child pornography offenses is 15-30 years. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #29
I once represented an admitted pedophile. guillaumeb Jun 2019 #26
Understandable. Snackshack Jun 2019 #27
You're a pro, Aristus PJMcK Jun 2019 #28
See if you can have another physician take over that case still_one Jun 2019 #31
I'm the only provider at the homeless clinic. Aristus Jun 2019 #46
You are a principled physican. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jun 2019 #48
Physician Assistant. Aristus Jun 2019 #49
Regardless. we need more people like you still_one Jun 2019 #50
Very nice, thank you. Aristus Jun 2019 #52
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I don't agree. If he is accessing these images, he is availing himself of a market for them. Aristus Jun 2019 #34
Exactly . If he woke up and relayed he was crying for realizing the abuse he supported lunasun Jun 2019 #36
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Whatever the definition is, his actions meet it. Aristus Jun 2019 #38
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And I disagree with your opinion. Aristus Jun 2019 #45
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I hope you are urging this man to seek psychiatric treatment Skittles Jun 2019 #40
I encouraged him to talk to someone in our behavioral health department. Aristus Jun 2019 #41
getting to the root of why he indulges in child porn is what he (and society) needs Skittles Jun 2019 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Jun 2019 #51
Hi, Aristus. cilla4progress Jun 2019 #53
I feel for you and encouraged that you have true integrity. Lint Head Jun 2019 #54
Aristus, you have a difficult job that I don't envy. smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #56
tough one for you.. samnsara Jun 2019 #58
That's pretty much the way it's going to be for me. Aristus Jun 2019 #59
Remember Samuel Alexander Mudd JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2019 #60
You posted in another forum that you would not care if an inmate was murdered in prison. Tipperary Jun 2019 #61
. . . UTUSN Jun 2019 #62
I'm pretty sure I pointed that out in my original post. Aristus Jun 2019 #63
He is a medical professional. LuckyCharms Jun 2019 #64
You are a gentleman. akraven Jun 2019 #66
Very nice. Thank you. Aristus Jun 2019 #67
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