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In reply to the discussion: Was Elvis Presley a racist? [View all]
 

Tomconroy

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26. I thought I'd do a little follow up since I still
Wed Jul 21, 2021, 05:19 PM
Jul 2021

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Find this an interesting topic. What I found makes me more convinced than ever that Quincy Jones is just making stuff up. He seems to want to disparage any musician that didn't work with him. Even his 2018 interview in GQ is wrong. There is a video on youtube of Elvis on the first Tommy James show. He brought his own band to play with him that night. There is an audio of the third show performance of Heartbreak Hotel. The Dorsey band can be heard loud and clear including trumpets. So if wikipedia is correct chances are Jones was playing that night. I've read an article from someone who's heard later performances (apparently video exists of all the shows Elvis appeared on but they aren't up on youtube) that says the band can be heard a bit in the background. So Jone's claim in 2018 that Dorsey and his band refused to play with Elvis is just garbage.
It's too bad that Jones' claims got a lot of coverage. They were picked up by the NY Post and several british newspapers as well as dozens or more websites. It's understandable how in years past the rumor that Elvis was a racist could spread. There was simply no way to verify information. But in the past what, twenty years, we have the web. You can see that Jones' 2021 story was inexplicably different from his 2018 story that in itself was factually wrong. You can see video of BB King, James Brown, Little Richard and Jackie Wilson (If you don't know who Wilson was, check out the recent movie One Night In Miami) expressing their devotion to Presley. Of you can find a single reference to someone who knew Elvis and said he was a racist, let me know, because I looked and couldn't find one.
Even on this thread there were a couple of people who opined that because he was white and grew up in the south he had to have racist feelings. But his experience was a bit different. His family was dirt poor and he generally had black neighbors (not true for many of us who grew up in the north). He loved gospel music and sometimes attended black Churches when he was young so he could hear it. He was a weekly attendee at what was then Memphis' only integrated event a group gospel sing.
Why do I think this is important? I won't go through all the quotes from all of the living rock legends who express their debt and admiration for Elvis. I'll refer you to the videos on youtube of his 1968 performance. It was before he became a charicature of himself in Las Vegas. They show why he was a rock and Roll legend.

Was Elvis Presley a racist? [View all] Tomconroy Jul 2021 OP
Elvis was a southerner and it was the '50s. So probably yes, at least then. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #1
By today's standards? Yeah prodigitalson Dec 2021 #27
Interesting, thanks for the research. Merlot Jul 2021 #2
It's worth watching. Tomconroy Jul 2021 #3
Nice. The words did indeed sound like it was inspired from MLK's speech Merlot Jul 2021 #8
This was 70 years ago. He has been dead most if that time. Srkdqltr Jul 2021 #4
Quincy Jones quote about Elvis being a racist Tomconroy Jul 2021 #5
I think Quincy Jones has a book out and is trying to sell it (just a theory) MisterNiceKitty Jul 2021 #12
In the interview he also claimed Tomconroy Jul 2021 #13
Wait Quincy Jones claimed to speak 26 languages? MisterNiceKitty Jul 2021 #15
I've always felt racism is a curve, not multigraincracker Jul 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author multigraincracker Jul 2021 #7
Hmm... Mike Nelson Jul 2021 #9
+1 Dan Jul 2021 #16
Op this is an interesting topic, but why is the word "tumor" appearing in your post instead of rumor MisterNiceKitty Jul 2021 #10
Those letter buttons on the phone are really tiny! Tomconroy Jul 2021 #11
While I will give Quincy Jones his opinion Lithos Jul 2021 #14
Well... Mike Nelson Jul 2021 #18
Jackie Wilson was quoted as saying Tomconroy Jul 2021 #21
Little Richard . . . . AverageOldGuy Jul 2021 #22
My sister used to say Elvis was a bigot kimbutgar Jul 2021 #17
That's good enough for me FakeNoose Jul 2021 #20
White folks . . . AverageOldGuy Jul 2021 #24
If Elvis were alive, do you know what he'd be doing today? Probatim Jul 2021 #19
Remembering his song "In the Ghetto" ALBliberal Jul 2021 #23
Is this a song a racist sings? flotsam2 Jul 2021 #25
I thought I'd do a little follow up since I still Tomconroy Jul 2021 #26
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