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RainDog

(28,784 posts)
9. Those are great
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 12:20 AM
Feb 2014

One complaint about the show - that it's so white male oppressive in the narrative - I also think that's part of the point.

Someone talked about it as meta fiction to say, "this is Maggie, but this is also Maggie the put upon and marginalized wife" who, as Marty noted he thinks is supposed to make a home that is geared around his needs.

At first I thought... oh, he's really a jerk - but, in terms of where people exist in a story, WHO exists in the story, WHAT story is told, what is ignored - that whole scene takes on a whole new level of meaning, and the complaints about the narrative being sexist and racist in its failure to develop the other characters - is also a point to be made.

Coehle is trying to talk Marty down and put him on the case when "the hot young girlfriend" blows up Marty's life with the remark about "With all the d you swagger, you couldn't tell crazy...kitty?" (those are meta quotation marks since I'm not actually reproducing the text but pretending I am... lol. or something...)

ANYWAY, Marty was the one who was acting crazy with jealousy and then acting like an ass when she was angry with him for what he did. But the traditional narrative is the hot girlfriend is crazy - it dismisses her.

So, yeah, I wanna re-watch all the eps again too!

(oh, and I didn't realize until the other day when talking about this on another thread... DU HAS THE YELLOW KING in custody as a smilie.

eta: - At some point, I think we'll see Marty at a Promise Keepers meeting, since he mention the group. That whole idea of male as the dominant person for a "relationship" is a big part of that whole right wing religious world. I wonder if they have "purity balls" with their daughters... if there's something that is unintentionally creepy in a Lovecraftian horror kind of way... it's purity balls with dad.

refining my guesses RainDog Feb 2014 #1
Coehle's storage shed RainDog Feb 2014 #2
I just caught up yesterday so will respond to specific episodes below Goblinmonger Feb 2014 #21
Bottle or on tap? RainDog Feb 2014 #22
I'm a sucker for a good tap lager Goblinmonger Mar 2014 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author RainDog Mar 2014 #27
Excellent tv Sienna86 Feb 2014 #3
Must see TV... mimi85 Feb 2014 #5
episode six guessing game RainDog Feb 2014 #4
Excellent analysis mimi85 Feb 2014 #6
I don't know either RainDog Feb 2014 #7
This show is soooo much deeper than I expected! I'm loving it! Silver Gaia Feb 2014 #8
Those are great RainDog Feb 2014 #9
Links to online speculation RainDog Feb 2014 #10
I binged the first five episodes of this mesmerizing series last night. LonePirate Feb 2014 #11
Dark Was the Night RainDog Feb 2014 #12
Maggie! (6 spoilers) RainDog Feb 2014 #13
ep 7 guesses/maybe spoilers RainDog Feb 2014 #14
Great analysis! liberalmuse Feb 2014 #15
thanks for the kind words RainDog Feb 2014 #16
I think your analysis... liberalmuse Feb 2014 #17
I LOVE what you have to say RainDog Feb 2014 #18
Just have to say mimi85 Feb 2014 #19
that's so sweet of you RainDog Feb 2014 #20
Links to online discussion RainDog Feb 2014 #23
The King in Yellow is available for free RainDog Feb 2014 #24
Beth is such a bad girl she broke the fourth wall RainDog Feb 2014 #25
Can't wait! mimi85 Mar 2014 #28
sigh RainDog Mar 2014 #29
I'm out of guesses RainDog Mar 2014 #30
Honestly.. I'm going to have to find a way to rewatch the series after it ends... hlthe2b Mar 2014 #31
LOL RainDog Mar 2014 #32
Have you read this? hlthe2b Mar 2014 #33
I have now... RainDog Mar 2014 #34
ReLenting RainDog Mar 2014 #35
I can't quit you, TD babe RainDog Mar 2014 #38
Paraphilic Love Map of True Detective online RainDog Mar 2014 #36
Geeshie Wiley - Last Kind Words RainDog Mar 2014 #37
I can barely wait to see the finale tonight (Sunday night)! Tx4obama Mar 2014 #39
I See a Darkness RainDog Mar 2014 #40
The mystery was a counterpoint RainDog Mar 2014 #41
hmmmm RainDog Mar 2014 #42
I don't know... I sort of agree with the DB writer (who wrote the earlier article I posted upstream) hlthe2b Mar 2014 #43
I agree with Alyssa Rosenberg RainDog Mar 2014 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author RainDog Mar 2014 #45
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