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yuiyoshida

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Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:34 AM Jun 2018

OH, HELL TO THE FUCKING NO!!!! [View all]

Last edited Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:18 AM - Edit history (1)

Initiative to break California into 3 states to go on November ballot


(CNN)An initiative that would divide California into three separate states qualified Tuesday to appear on the ballot in November's general election.

Californians will vote whether to separate into three states: California, Northern California and Southern California -- subject to approval by US Congress.

The proposal by venture capitalist, Tim Draper to break up California in a campaign called "Cal 3," received more than 402,468 valid signatures -- surpassing the amount required by state law.
California Secretary of State Alex Padilla will certify the initiative as qualified for the November 6th ballot on June 28.

Draper has said that partitioning California into three states would allow regional communities to make better and more sensible decisions for their citizens to address the state's most pressing issues, including the school systems, high taxes, deteriorating infrastructure and strained government.

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/13/us/california-three-states-initiative-ballot/index.html

California has ALWAYS has been a bastion for liberals and a powerful State for Democrats.

We went a very strong blue a few years back, but all of that could change if this State is broken up into three smaller states and within a few years, Republicans could start to gain more power back if the voters break up this state.

Republicans could NEVER budge California as a whole, but break the state up into three parts, just allowing one part to turn red will have significant changes for this entire region in the near future.

THIS MUST NOT HAPPEN!

We must stay strong together or California and the Democratic party will weaken because of it. We have seen what the Republicans have done to this Nation. It could become far, far worse if California is broken up and Republicans take it over eventually!

DON'T ALLOW CALIFORNIA to turn RED! VOTE NO ON THE BREAK UP OF THIS STATE!

IF California allows this to pass, SO GOES THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.... mark my words!!

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OH, HELL TO THE FUCKING NO!!!! [View all] yuiyoshida Jun 2018 OP
My understanding is that it has little chance (one would hope): Californians? what say you? hlthe2b Jun 2018 #1
So one would think. But don't relax - Brexit once had little chance as well. Mister Ed Jun 2018 #32
This is fucked in so many ways... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #40
With a little help from Russia, you neve can rule it out liberal N proud Jun 2018 #103
Hey yui! Glamrock Jun 2018 #2
This issue has only brought me to post this... THis is fuckiing nuts yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #3
Agree with everything you said. Glamrock Jun 2018 #11
Hang around. We need as many sane voices as possible to counter those who would divide us hlthe2b Jun 2018 #36
divide us..,., yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #38
Glad you came back to post about this, Yui.. Cha Jun 2018 #106
aloha and mahalo Cha... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #107
They can't do this. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #4
its on the fucking ballot... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #10
It won't pass. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #12
and WE SAID TRUMP would never be President.... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #14
I DID say the moron would be president the minute I saw him announce it. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #18
well that won't even buy you a cup of coffee yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #19
Proposition 8 banning same-sex marriage. yallerdawg Jun 2018 #39
AND look how long it took to legalize Cannabis... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #41
I don't know if Democrats are truly aware... yallerdawg Jun 2018 #46
We need to educate the California public yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #54
Bingo! Good to see your name again. I missed you. nt jrthin Jun 2018 #83
Good to see you back. I agree, very bad idea. jalan48 Jun 2018 #5
I am not back, I am only pissed... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #8
Well, I hope you come back Yuiyoshida and I agree about the danger of this initiative. jalan48 Jun 2018 #15
HI!!! MrScorpio Jun 2018 #6
HEY yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #16
Yuiyoshida! MFM008 Jun 2018 #7
I AM not back, i am pissed... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #9
I'm with you 10,000 % and glad YOU'RE pissed calikid Jun 2018 #48
our state is important and its also yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #52
RUSSIAN PLOT ROB-ROX Jun 2018 #74
its conceivable... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #77
Gerrymandering on another scale spike91nz Jun 2018 #13
OKAY? yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #17
Welcome back! Interesting times, right? sandensea Jun 2018 #23
IT would take CONGRESS to approve of this breakup and you know its a REpublican wet dream yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #26
Tim Draper is a greedy gazillionaire who wants to turn our state into Kansas. SunSeeker Jun 2018 #114
over our dead yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #115
How To Gain Two Senators FrankTC Jun 2018 #20
You forgot one thing.... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #25
I wish to quibble with the math Pope George Ringo II Jun 2018 #81
Divide and conquer...With RUSSIAN meddling ... NO! yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #98
No argument from me Pope George Ringo II Jun 2018 #100
The only thing worse than giving the GOP 4 free US senators IronLionZion Jun 2018 #21
ITs a fucking disaster if REPUBLICANS MANIPULATE THE VOTE yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #24
Californians should vote against this -- then vote to DEPORT Tim Draper (from the state). n/t CousinIT Jun 2018 #22
Trump told Xi Jinping OF china he would love to be President for Life ... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #28
they will stop at nothing to destroy this country. rurallib Jun 2018 #27
iTS HALF WAY down that road now... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #29
This San Franciscan will actively work to send these conniving scam republicans down in flames. NBachers Jun 2018 #30
This is not only OUR SURVIVAL but the nations.... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #34
California is an Economic & Political Powerhouse dlk Jun 2018 #31
NOT to mention the fucking RUSSIANS.... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #35
Have you noticed.... DAngelo136 Jun 2018 #33
Consider the Centuries of Republican Rule for this nation...hell yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #37
Missed you! tazkcmo Jun 2018 #42
Thanks but I only came to sound the alarm... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #45
Every state could divide. Republican states would divide like rabbits to gain Senators bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #43
oh not to the Republicans.... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #47
Let's split Texas up vercetti2021 Jun 2018 #44
RIGHT now we need to educate Californians not to fall for this scam yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #51
Even if it passes it would still have to be approved by the California legislature? pwb Jun 2018 #61
UHUH AND TRUMP WAS never going to be President... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #65
Trump didn't win California and the state legislature is solid democratic so UHUH not likely. pwb Jun 2018 #90
Tell you what, take A RED STATE and break it up into Three states! yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #99
Actually, under that scenario, that land mass would go from bottomofthehill Jun 2018 #58
Is it constitutional? West Virginia separated from Virginia, but that was to remain part of the Nitram Jun 2018 #49
Congress would have to approve and to get all of the yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #59
Sounds extremely unlikely. Nitram Jun 2018 #67
Yeah like TRump was never going to be yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #69
What if Mississippi divided into 10 parts to get 18 more conservative Senators in the US Congress? Nitram Jun 2018 #50
CA is totally blue and staying together can keep it BLUE yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #97
A two state split would give Californians twice the number of Senators randr Jun 2018 #53
Yes and they COULD JUST AS EASILY BE yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #56
Not to mention skewing the Electoral College Wednesdays Jun 2018 #60
Awaiting the infusion of Russian money and bots. Sneederbunk Jun 2018 #55
For all we know they could already be behind it yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #57
rachel had a story on another plan to seceded. calexit. mopinko Jun 2018 #70
OT: Welcome back, Yuiyoshida! Wednesdays Jun 2018 #62
I am not back... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #68
Wonder if this is yet another Putin backed scheme to fuck us over? lark Jun 2018 #63
right? yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #66
You don't have to wonder at all - Russia is absolutely behind the bullwinkle428 Jun 2018 #71
I agree. lark Jun 2018 #72
dont forget the state of monroe iditots AllaN01Bear Jun 2018 #64
"Republicans could start to gain more power back" and that's the sole reason. YOHABLO Jun 2018 #73
WE CAN NOT ALLOW THIS TO STAND yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #79
Completely agree, and thank you for this post! c-rational Jun 2018 #75
When I saw the map, I knew right then that this is a rethug strategy. Texin Jun 2018 #76
NOT TO mention yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #80
how is this disaster polling so far? 0rganism Jun 2018 #78
Tell ya what... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #82
uh oh... 0rganism Jun 2018 #86
Are we sure that these California's would turn red? dubyadiprecession Jun 2018 #84
Well how about this... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #85
isn't that a Russian backed movement? TalenaGor Jun 2018 #87
I don't know ... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #88
ok here's a link....it was secession... TalenaGor Jun 2018 #89
That's crazy.. disillusioned73 Jun 2018 #91
Failed numerous times & will fail again CountAllVotes Jun 2018 #92
How about some consolidation to go along with breakup? markbark Jun 2018 #93
There IS NO NEED for CA to be broken up other than to be an Advantage yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #96
I have no desire to see CA broken up. markbark Jun 2018 #108
i'm not convinced that all 3 wouldn't be blue Stargleamer Jun 2018 #94
If EVEN ONE STATE turns red yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #95
I'd love for Texas to be broken up catrose Jun 2018 #101
And yet its fine with you yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #105
No it isn't catrose Jun 2018 #109
well that's a relief... yuiyoshida Jun 2018 #110
I hear you, yui. . . Stargleamer Jun 2018 #111
Let's merge the Dakotas jayschool2013 Jun 2018 #102
Yep. Or break up Tim Draper. nt SunSeeker Jun 2018 #113
My state needs to stay one state.... Upthevibe Jun 2018 #104
This would also destabilize public pensions and weaken unions. SunSeeker Jun 2018 #112
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