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dawg day

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31. I went and checked, and the 5 levels of documentation are absurd
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 11:29 AM
Aug 2019

I have lived in the same city for 40 years, the same HOUSE for 35 years.
I have gotten driver's licenses here for 40 years.
I have had a US passport for 45 years (renewed several times).
I was just approved for that Trusted Traveller (US) card.
I have paid federal and state taxes every year since I was 18.



But... it is going to require work to get all the many forms of documentation needed to get this stupid real ID. Here are the problem ones-
Utility bills mailed to your with your name and address. (Utility bills are in husband's name, because back when we bought the house, that's what they did -- married women couldn't even get credit cards in their own name.) Ditto insurance bills.

Mortgage bill (paid off mortgage 12 years ago)

Credit card bills (all my bills except a couple utility bills in husband's name arrive electronically, which isn't acceptable)

Bank statements (also electronic)
(These above are to prove residence in the house I've lived in for 35 years and paid property tax on-- AND at least two different types are needed)

W-2 forms (also electronic)
(These all have to be issued, btw, within 60 days of applying for the real ID)

Social Security card (Umm, which I probably lost 40 years ago and was in my maiden name anyway)
Voter registration card (ditto-- and anyway, why wouldn't the state be able to check that, since I'm registered in the state, and we have driver-voter law, so the BMV does have access?)

I went through all the options, and it looks like I am going to have to do this- Get my bank to send me a statement through the mail, meaning I have to go to the bank branch and prove my ID and ask for it.
Switch my credit card "paperless" delivery to "paper" for a month (and then back).

I'm not sure about the W-2 (which absent my SS card, seems to be the one way I can prove SSN relatively easily, though you know, it's ON MY DRIVER'S LICENSE!!!!). My company does not ever send the paper copy anymore. Maybe I can wait until the SSA sends out that annual statement of benefits? But that probably doesn't have my SSN on it. Oh, well. Too bad I won't turn 66 and get social security checks in time.

This anti-immigration fever is getting insane. Everyone-- everyone -- in the country is now going to have to go through these extra steps and the states all have to go to extra expense... and why? So that we can further demonize some farmworkers and roofers and babysitters and college students and business owners who are here doing honest work and bothering no one?

And INS continues to harass them while letting employers (LIKE TRUMP) who hire them skate.

I know I'm being petty, but I travel a lot, and it's idiotic that I and everyone else should have to go to all this trouble to be able to continue to do something we are legally allowed to do.










Thank you for post. MaryMagdaline Aug 2019 #1
You are good. We took our documents in back in 2009 rzemanfl Aug 2019 #3
By the way if you schedule an appointment at DMV through AAA MaryMagdaline Aug 2019 #2
Thanks. I intend to just show up and complain loudly and often. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #5
it's not just Florida rurallib Aug 2019 #4
At least you can drive with the thing. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #6
When we moved from Florida to PA 2 years ago, HockeyMom Aug 2019 #38
Need to upgrade snowybirdie Aug 2019 #7
Yes, a nationwide law that hasn't been fully implemented after rzemanfl Aug 2019 #8
agree, if it's from the state of FL, chances are it's totally fucked up. lark Aug 2019 #9
Sorry about your problems. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #11
I renewed in FL CDerekGo Aug 2019 #10
I am not sure you are correct about new requirements. rzemanfl Aug 2019 #12
Oh, and Skeletor's last name is Scott. He stole Nelson's seat. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #14
In my state, NM, to get one of those Real ID drivers licenses, PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2019 #13
At least in Virginia you get a mail renewal letter that says you can get either type Nay Aug 2019 #15
From what I've read the non-star license is supposed rzemanfl Aug 2019 #22
I recently renewed, got the star... and the fancy hologram mitch96 Aug 2019 #37
That statement is only supposed to be on the ones rzemanfl Aug 2019 #39
Got it, thanks...... nt mitch96 Aug 2019 #43
Dont bother upgrading, just use your passport Kilgore Aug 2019 #16
That is what we did (in PA). femmocrat Aug 2019 #19
Dubya continues to haunt us. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #21
Getting a passport is easy... Callmecrazy Aug 2019 #34
Getting $99 is hard for some folks. I refuse to get "papers" to rzemanfl Aug 2019 #45
Don't have one. I am 72 and have no intention of traveling outside rzemanfl Aug 2019 #20
The hassle of getting a passport was less than the Real ID. femmocrat Aug 2019 #23
I refuse to pay money for "papers" in the supposedly free rzemanfl Aug 2019 #24
That's true, there was a fee. femmocrat Aug 2019 #25
New Jersey is STILL trying to get their act together Dr Vegas Aug 2019 #17
You renewed your license online? HockeyMom Aug 2019 #18
And with a passport, you'd have to carry it all the time. dawg day Aug 2019 #32
He lied. Callmecrazy Aug 2019 #35
There's a wallet version. ariadne0614 Sep 2019 #50
Thank you SO MUCH for sharing this info with us! FM123 Aug 2019 #26
New plans for Real ID under the Trump administration is to include your IQ ... IggleDuer Aug 2019 #27
Speaking of justifiable paranoia, . . . ariadne0614 Aug 2019 #29
Yep. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #30
So I'm crazy? n/t ariadne0614 Aug 2019 #33
Justifiably paranoid. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #40
Also see Callmecrazy's post upthread. Crazy is spoken for. rzemanfl Aug 2019 #46
I feel better now. n/t ariadne0614 Sep 2019 #51
Same issue in AZ. Just got my renewed this year and now have to get a new one by next year vsrazdem Aug 2019 #28
I went and checked, and the 5 levels of documentation are absurd dawg day Aug 2019 #31
My wife describes one part of it as proving your husband has solid chain of custody NotASurfer Aug 2019 #36
Real ID says they're supposed to copy the stuff not just look at it. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #41
Could be state-specific implementation NotASurfer Aug 2019 #42
See Ariadne0614's post upthread. Yes, it does disproportionately affect rzemanfl Aug 2019 #44
I hadn't even thought of this, but my driver's license- dawg day Sep 2019 #48
Thanks for posting this. femmocrat Sep 2019 #47
Trusted Traveller- lets you through passport control (I think it's "Global Access") faster- dawg day Sep 2019 #49
Thanks for this. iscooterliberally Sep 2019 #52
Real ID in PA discriminates against married women cyclonefence Sep 2019 #53
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