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Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
13. I have the columns of numbers, from the 'recanvass' at the County Office Building today.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 12:30 AM
Dec 2016

What they did was, either use the flash card from the machines to verify the poll tape results generated from the Master PEB cart, or use a back up chip inside the machines. So the machines verified the totals they originally generated.

I talked to one Green party person there a bit, there were about 2 dozen official party representatives in the recanvass area and non-official people like me outside of the area. Neither RecountNow.org nor the Green recount organizers got in touch before the recanvass to request any particular actions or inform me that the recanvass was going to occur. But I did get an e-mail, sent at 10:46 am, while the recanvass was occurring, that announced a 12:30 Harrisburg rally. It was sent by the Green representative who I'd been talking to about the recanvass efforts the Greens occasioned.

Obviously, there was no way to make it from Pgh to Harrisburg in time for this 12:30 rally, given the lack of prior notice, and even if I'd gotten the e-mail at quarter to 11 instead of 8pm, I was busy at the recanvass the rally organizers had asked me to help set in motion in the first place.

Any county resident who wants the officially read out numbers for District Total Voters, Clinton, tRump, Stein, and McGinty, Toomey, for any particular district where the affidavit was filed in Allegheny county, let me know the District you want, and I'll post them. But I can't post 300+ numbers, this site doesn't allow blanks between characters, which are essential for tables. And it would make a very boring read.

Ward 11, District 12 had a reported error, where one of it's machine totals was not included originally. Here's the first numbers, and the amended numbers:

Total votes: 428. C-367, dR-42, St-10, McG-362, T-56
Total votes: 445. C-383, dR-43, St-10, McG-377, T-58

So one machine that was not included in the first count in 11-12 added 17 votes. 16 were for Clinton, one was for dRumpf. 15 were for McGinty, 2 for the weasel. Not a lot to go on here, but it's odd that the machine had only 17 voters for the whole day. And the ratio on that machine is more reasonable to me than the overall vote totals. 16-1 and 15-2 in favor of the Dems and against the supremely suck y repug candidates. Interesting what isolating one voting machine did, in terms of reported results.

My issues in 19-28 weren't addressed, and couldn't be by a machine recanvass. I was allowed access to envelope K from my polling precinct, and it reported a normal machine start time (~6:30 am), on the zero tapes for all 3 machines. The final results tapes also reported a normal closing time (~8:05pm) for all 3 machines. But I waited outside the poll until 8:48pm on election night, and the poll workers didn't post the results tape before I gave up and went home. The polls I watched 3 miles away, in 30-1 and 30-4, had closed and posted by 8:12pm.

A machine recanvass can't explain what could have held my poll results up so long afterward. And it can't explain the 10 - 20 % higher turn out rate at my poll, and the 12 -17% higher preference for dRumpf than the polls I watched next door, though we had zero dRumpf signs visible in my district.

And a machine recanvass does nothing to address the hacking concerns expressed by Mr. Haldermann that formed the basis of the 62 page affidavit we had to file to try to get the recount. The recanvass is not a recount.

The vote totals will be certified next Monday at 9 am, barring any new developments.

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