i'll admit to more than a whiff of that - i just don't get why anyone would genuinely think that Brexit would cure what they say is a problem without bringing much greater problems that they really won't like. its like finding myself in Wonderland where people are talking about how healthy it is to breate underwater and how Hyenas make excellent household pets.

if theres a leave vote, and as seems likely a leave vote will trigger a second, but this time successful indyref in Scotland, we might seriously consider Scotland (i lived in Scotland for 8 years, my eldest daughter still lives in Scotland) - this is not from some great love of the EU, nor a belief that an Independant Scotland will be a land of milk and honey where the Lion will frolic with the Lamb, rather that i genuinely think that Brexit will bring in huge economic recession or depression, and that we'll get some pretty unpleasant governments, a poisionous/toxic body politic, and that England and Wales will swing chaoticly from left to right to left and back again with each swing going further from propserity and civility. Scotland will feel the effects of that, but hopefully less so.

we're fortunate, we have transferable skills and capital - not to mention Australian and NZ passorts - we'd see how it went, we're not going to shoving stuff in the car on the 24th June, but it's something we'd keep an eye on and keep our options open.