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T_i_B

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4. Wrong

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 30, 2017, 04:31 PM

Jan 2017

Last edited Tue Jan 31, 2017, 02:47 AM - Edit history (1)

You don't qualify as a member of the Labour movement by being "ideologically pure".You become a member of the Labour movement by being a member of a trade union or the Labour party, which of course was created by the unions to represent working people.

For instance, I am not currently a member of the Labour movement as I am part of neither. I have been in the past but not for some time now. Regardless of what you think of Chukka Umunna, he is very clearly part of the Labour movement as a Labour MP who has previously served in a Labour shadow cabinet.

Umunna came to Labour through his background in employment law, and most Labour MP's have backgrounds in, and extensive links to trade unions.

The whole matter of how left wing you may or may not be is irrelevant to whether or not you could be considered part of the Labour movement.

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Thank goodness I'm not a member of UNITE.... [View all] T_i_B Jan 2017 OP

Well, anything Chuka Umunna does is about trying to make Labour stand for nothing at all Ken Burch Jan 2017 #1

If this is how Unite treat other people in the Labour movement... T_i_B Jan 2017 #2

I didn't support what McCluskey did. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #3

Wrong T_i_B Jan 2017 #4

It's not about "ideological purity", it's about who you fight for. Ken Burch Jan 2017 #5

So you are supporting McCluskey's actions then. T_i_B Feb 2017 #6

No, I'm not supporting McCluskey's actions Ken Burch Feb 2017 #7

This is not about Corbyn, Umunna or McCluskey but about Remain/Leave and the RIGHT to fight against LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #8

As I said, I'd have voted Remain. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #9

Because at the moment leaving the EU is inextricably intertwined with anti-immigrant, racist policy LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Feb 2017 #11

Was this post intended for me? LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #12

I should have sent it to the person who started this thread Ken Burch Feb 2017 #13

I was responding specifically to your remark LeftishBrit Feb 2017 #16

Two things I think came into play with what McCluskey did(I don't support suspensions, period) Ken Burch Feb 2017 #14

Thank f**k you aren't my union rep T_i_B Feb 2017 #15

Is there any way to improve matters for UNITE's members.. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #17

The answer is by building coalitions T_i_B Feb 2017 #18

The members of the PLP who still want Corbyn out aren't PART of the left, though Ken Burch Feb 2017 #19

They absolutly are 100% part of the left T_i_B Feb 2017 #20

I've got nothing against Clive Lewis. Clive Lewis supports Jeremy as leader. Ken Burch Feb 2017 #21

Unite HQ Dworkin Feb 2017 #22