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Ken Burch

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15. Why is she even still leading Holyrood Labour after a third-place finish?

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 04:22 PM

Mar 2017

From what I've seen, she's as Blairite as Murphy, she's opposing the SNP from the right(which is the one place Labour is never going to take votes from the Nats), and she's digging in her heels and opposing any effort at party reform or renewal.

What's the POINT in keeping her in the job?

All she can do as leader is guarantee Scottish Labour NEVER recovers, based on what she's done so far.

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Labour leapt into Brexit's fires - and now the party is burning [View all] Denzil_DC Mar 2017 OP

All I will say here... T_i_B Mar 2017 #1

The anti-Corbyn types probably could have persuaded Corbyn to go... Ken Burch Mar 2017 #2

It's not all about Corbyn at this point. It's barely even about Labour any more. Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #3

There are valid points in what you've said. Ken Burch Mar 2017 #4

There's not much point having a leader if he/she doesn't lead. n/t Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #5

No one the PLP would accept would lead-all they care about is putting a "moderate" in. Ken Burch Mar 2017 #6

And too many of the Corbynites care only about kicking the moderates out T_i_B Mar 2017 #7

The "moderates" could stop all of that if they just stopped scheming against the current leader. Ken Burch Mar 2017 #12

Wrong. T_i_B Mar 2017 #13

Would you agree with what I suggested above... Ken Burch Mar 2017 #17

No T_i_B Mar 2017 #18

Care to say why my theories are garbage? Ken Burch Mar 2017 #20

Dude - read what I've written above. Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #9

I don't want to talk about Corbyn or anti-Corbyn either....but the anti-people "Labour" MPs Ken Burch Mar 2017 #14

"The best approach was to fight to save multicultural Britain in a post-Brexit world." Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #30

In the here and now, there was never any chance that ANY Tory MPs would defy May on Article 50. Ken Burch Mar 2017 #32

Nonsense. There are Tory MPs who are opposed, Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #33

Thanks Denzil T_i_B Mar 2017 #8

If Corbyn hasn't disappointed me on the Scottish issue, Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #10

I actually feel sorry for Kezia Dugdale T_i_B Mar 2017 #11

Why is she even still leading Holyrood Labour after a third-place finish? Ken Burch Mar 2017 #15

Who else is there in Scottish Labour? T_i_B Mar 2017 #16

Is it a requirement that the Scottish Labour leader be a sitting MSP? Ken Burch Mar 2017 #19

Party leaders should always be elected officials T_i_B Mar 2017 #21

That creates a dilemma: Ken Burch Mar 2017 #22

Labour's rivals would love that proposal T_i_B Mar 2017 #23

Why on earth is it so important to you that Scottish Labour survives? Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #27

Only because Labour needs to make a comeback in Scotland... Ken Burch Mar 2017 #28

I've had to knock this myth down before. Sorry, your first argument is just nonsense. Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #29

I respect your opinions. Ken Burch Mar 2017 #31

I could make some guesses where you might have read stuff like that. Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #34

I appreciate the additional information. Ken Burch Mar 2017 #35

That's a shame. One would hope for better. Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #36

Her deputy, Alex Rowley, would be in improvement in all sorts of ways. Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #24

OK, we have a point of agreement, finally. Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Warpy Mar 2017 #26