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Democracyinkind

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77. The real prize in this nation is the national security apparatus.
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 05:13 AM
Mar 2014

The corporatists, right wingers and fascists in this country have long ago learned that lesson. Congress, the President, even the judiciary to a certain point are but powerless figure-heads when one small interest group has a hold on the national security apparatus. The people who realized this first are the people that have been running this country for a long time now.

I do not see how anyone can deny this with a straigh face.

So who the hell is running this country? newfie11 Mar 2014 #1
As DeepThroat said: ''Always follow the money.'' DeSwiss Mar 2014 #6
Your right newfie11 Mar 2014 #7
Totally agree with both of you. lark Mar 2014 #47
In a word- Titonwan Mar 2014 #10
Of course. Any of us who were present back then knew what a threat the CIA was but we got out of jwirr Mar 2014 #59
George HW Bush in charge of the CIA in 1963? HooptieWagon Mar 2014 #63
So when was he head of the CIA? And are you saying he had no control over it's future actions? jwirr Mar 2014 #64
jan76-jan77. HooptieWagon Mar 2014 #85
That is exactly what I'd like to know. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #12
Well, what was Prescott Bush's intentions back in WW2 and post war? blm Mar 2014 #38
For those asking "Who", bvar22 Mar 2014 #60
The radical right wing shadow government. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #19
The Carlyle Group. I thought everyone knew. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #62
Russ Tice!!!!! NSA whistleblower @ blackmail billhicks76 Mar 2014 #76
Sybill Edmunds dotymed Mar 2014 #2
you know, there is a charter school here mopinko Mar 2014 #23
Pelosi's comments ... Scuba Mar 2014 #3
wow, there it is grasswire Mar 2014 #4
kick grasswire Mar 2014 #48
And one shoe dropped. DeSwiss Mar 2014 #5
Interesting excerpt - where can I find the source? erronis Mar 2014 #70
Here ya go. DeSwiss Mar 2014 #71
Thanks - so much to absorb! erronis Mar 2014 #82
Covert power is scary and the CIA uses that to their advantage siligut Mar 2014 #8
Are you still laughing when people say that President Obama A Simple Game Mar 2014 #21
He is perhaps "embraced" by the secret stuff. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #27
That also may be why he has the job he has and not because of the job he has. n/t A Simple Game Mar 2014 #31
The secrets are on a need to know basis siligut Mar 2014 #34
No, we're still laughing that some people actually believe that a president has complete control blm Mar 2014 #39
So you don't think President Obama has embraced all of the, often unnecessary, secrecy? n/t A Simple Game Mar 2014 #42
LOL - I think he had no clue how deep it went when he entered office, and is still being kept blm Mar 2014 #52
As you don't think the smartest President in history has a clue and that A Simple Game Mar 2014 #56
That's not what I said, is it? Build your strawmen for those willing to play blm Mar 2014 #61
Did you forget what you posted in #52? A Simple Game Mar 2014 #66
What part of 'is still being kept from the extent of it' did you fail to comprehend? blm Mar 2014 #67
Ok, you're right, I just don't understand. I do know that because I'm a liberal A Simple Game Mar 2014 #69
Mebbe an 'Operation Valkyrie' is in order Titonwan Mar 2014 #9
So our democracy is over? BlueJac Mar 2014 #11
Since 1963! pocoloco Mar 2014 #29
Assuming the NSA and CIA work on behalf of corporate interests SHRED Mar 2014 #13
It is the very definition of Fascism. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #20
Prescott Bush supported fascism and was branded a traitor. lark Mar 2014 #49
The media always paints the Bush clan as harmless and benevolent. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #78
Totally agree with both of you. lark Mar 2014 #81
This may explain why Clinton bombed Iraq during the impeachment proceedings KurtNYC Mar 2014 #14
For 4 decades now the most powerful part of CIA,NSA, FBI are those units loyal ONLY to BushInc. blm Mar 2014 #15
A good argument could made that you are Titonwan Mar 2014 #17
Correct 90-percent Mar 2014 #25
Cheney is a cog, a big one, but still a cog in BFEE. blm Mar 2014 #36
He was there to 'help' W with the deciding. nt siligut Mar 2014 #44
See, Obama should have known this and fired them all. lark Mar 2014 #51
As the quote reads: vlakitti Mar 2014 #58
You are hopelessly paranoid. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #28
; ) And 95% of the time history has a way of proving us to be right. blm Mar 2014 #35
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #16
Its worse than she has admitted Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #18
. snagglepuss Mar 2014 #30
Most of the anti-Snowden, Greenwald accounts here are CIA/NSA plants fbc Mar 2014 #22
What a spurious and completely unsubstantiated load of horseshit--and welcome to DU, comrade.... MADem Mar 2014 #40
Many of those accounts have been here for ages. JoeyT Mar 2014 #41
i will never forget a conversation with a congressional staffer mopinko Mar 2014 #24
Like experience here toby jo Mar 2014 #26
Um.... ok...... eggplant Mar 2014 #46
Warning sign: The People are fearing the government Blue Owl Mar 2014 #32
I'm not surprised that Congress is afraid of the information the CIA can produce on them. Baitball Blogger Mar 2014 #33
Here's an interesting article by Mike Lofgren, a congressional staff member for 28 years octoberlib Mar 2014 #37
Also an outstanding article! Octafish Mar 2014 #50
bookmark to read that article later nt grasswire Mar 2014 #55
Thank you for posting this. woo me with science Mar 2014 #83
K&R! nt Mnemosyne Mar 2014 #43
How can that be? Octafish Mar 2014 #45
K&R.... daleanime Mar 2014 #53
Should be the other way around. The CIA should fear Congress. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #54
There is a reason that JFK and Frank Church wanted to take Dawson Leery Mar 2014 #57
Duh, they don't want to be Kennedyed or Wellstoned. nt valerief Mar 2014 #65
11/22/63. Call me crazy! WinkyDink Mar 2014 #68
Did that come from the water is wet department? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #72
what business does pelosi have calling congress scared. SHE put impeaching Bush off the table. alp227 Mar 2014 #73
Too late. Last chance to expose BFEE was release of BCCI Report. We needed another candidate blm Mar 2014 #80
Shadow Government. The White House is little more than a false prop to give the Citizenry the IDEA blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #74
Sadly +1. Nt newfie11 Mar 2014 #79
K&R NealK Mar 2014 #75
The real prize in this nation is the national security apparatus. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #77
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