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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
23. Here's why ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:08 PM
Apr 2016

I think you're right in the sense that certainly the rules are important, but rules are only as good as the willingness of people to respect them and the willingness of those in power to enforce them. My guess is that people here don't have the time so they came up with a software solution to substitute the lack of ability to manage this. I think the admins themselves have recognized this is as software to some degree and intend to revisit it. If you are going to automate the system, there should also be a way to take it past automation and this system doesn't work that way. If you email the admins, you're lucky to get a response, so there's no jury for the jury, so to speak. If there is to be a jury system, there should also be a jury of appeal and maybe a second set of eyes. But even then, I honestly think that kind of appeals jury should be chosen by the admins from a pool of people seen to be more concerned with civility and good discourse than being biased for or against specific candidates. Having everyone able to become a juror doesn't work if the system is set up to favor the supporters of specific candidates. So, perhaps it is more of a rules and software problem, but the change in rules would definitely necessitate a change in the software. The immunity given to people recently was merely a band-aid on a broken system. The software of the site itself needs to be adjusted to reflect a jury system not so polluted by bias. Fine, have everyone be a regular juror if necessary (though I would never do that myself—my group's admins are chosen from people who I believe will make the best choice for the cohesion of the group), but then have an appeals component of the application that allows for less biased heads to weigh in.

One hide and I haven't been asked to jury duty since. IamMab Apr 2016 #1
Ask Skinner! (nt) question everything Apr 2016 #3
This is ultimately a software problem. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #5
How is this a software problem? athena Apr 2016 #9
Here's why ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #23
I have 1 hide in the last 90 days, and I still get asked for jury duty almost every day. Check your Fla Dem Apr 2016 #16
I turned off willingness to serve on juries. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #24
I thought that the new Skinner rule is that getting hides does not bar someone question everything Apr 2016 #2
My re-activation email on here said... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #6
If you get two hides in 24 hours, you're on review. George II Apr 2016 #10
Lovely. N/t nolawarlock Apr 2016 #13
Wow. athena Apr 2016 #15
I also think there are fewer Hillary supporters. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #25
Yeap... FarPoint Apr 2016 #29
You are a new member with 3 hides in just over a month. Fla Dem Apr 2016 #18
Good advice. SharonClark Apr 2016 #19
Thank you for the advice nolawarlock Apr 2016 #26
Even if you continue to post, athena Apr 2016 #11
Every cloud has a silver lining! nolawarlock Apr 2016 #21
I have been kept off jury duty for months liberal N proud Apr 2016 #4
I trashed GDP 2naSalit Apr 2016 #30
I have long trashed GDP liberal N proud Apr 2016 #31
Yeah, I noticed that....nt 2naSalit Apr 2016 #32
Small minded people playing internet games. Shrug it off. eom UtahLib Apr 2016 #7
Not that easy nolawarlock Apr 2016 #12
Maybe a poll would help show this? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #8
How do we know if we had a post alerted or hidden? Do they send a message or something? kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2016 #33
Yes, in "My Inbox". n/t nolawarlock Apr 2016 #34
Skinner has said that the system will be replaced after the primaries. athena Apr 2016 #14
Good to hear nolawarlock Apr 2016 #27
IOW.. the majority won't be in charge of who gets a hide because they don't like. We need a Cha Apr 2016 #37
You seem like a really intelligent, rational, and thoughtful person. athena Apr 2016 #17
Thank you, Athena nolawarlock Apr 2016 #22
Way too many. When Skinner recently got rid of the 5 strikes aspect, a LOT of people Lucinda Apr 2016 #20
Maybe ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #28
Yes hrc guy Apr 2016 #35
Oh for goodness sake nolawarlock Apr 2016 #36
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