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Judi Lynn

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3. Just finished the video you posted here.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 06:33 PM
Mar 2015

It was the first time hearing some of the material covered, since our own corporate "news" sources didn't feel it was their job to inform us during the time it was happening. Didn't want to bother with the hassle of sharing the truth with the U.S. public, apparently.

Had no idea the part the Carter administration played in applying pressure to the Dirty War in the way it did. No hint of it from our corporate media. They were too busy bellowing about the gas prices, and the right-wing howling about what a bad President Carter was. Yeah, the same guys who've acted as if the world was ending every time a Democrat was in office, since F.D.R. was first elected. A$$holes.

I had never heard of Pat Derian! Wonder why! Apparently the U.S. fascists didn't want her to be recognized and the media included her in their Dirty War whitewash.

Found this from Mother Jones:


New Memo: Kissinger Gave the "Green Light" for Argentina's Dirty War

—By David Corn

| Tue Jan. 14, 2014 4:23 PM EST

Only a few months ago, Henry Kissinger was dancing with Stephen Colbert in a funny bit on the latter's Comedy Central show. But for years, the former secretary of state has sidestepped judgment for his complicity in horrific human rights abuses abroad, and a new memo has emerged that provides clear evidence that in 1976 Kissinger gave Argentina's neo-fascist military junta the "green light" for the dirty war it was conducting against civilian and militant leftists that resulted in the disappearance—that is, deaths—of an estimated 30,000 people.

In April 1977, Patt Derian, a onetime civil rights activist whom President Jimmy Carter had recently appointed assistant secretary of state for human rights, met with the US ambassador in Buenos Aires, Robert Hill. A memo recording that conversation has been unearthed by Martin Edwin Andersen, who in 1987 first reported that Kissinger had told the Argentine generals to proceed with their terror campaign against leftists (whom the junta routinely referred to as "terrorists&quot . The memo notes that Hill told Derian about a meeting Kissinger held with Argentine Foreign Minister Cesar Augusto Guzzetti the previous June. What the two men discussed was revealed in 2004 when the National Security Archive obtained and released the secret memorandum of conversation for that get-together. Guzzetti, according to that document, told Kissinger, "our main problem in Argentina is terrorism." Kissinger replied, "If there are things that have to be done, you should do them quickly. But you must get back quickly to normal procedures." In other words, go ahead with your killing crusade against the leftists.

The new document shows that Kissinger was even more explicit in encouraging the Argentine junta. The memo recounts Hill describing the Kissinger-Guzzetti discussion this way:

The Argentines were very worried that Kissinger would lecture to them on human rights. Guzzetti and Kissinger had a very long breakfast but the Secretary did not raise the subject. Finally Guzzetti did. Kissinger asked how long will it take you (the Argentines) to clean up the problem. Guzzetti replied that it would be done by the end of the year. Kissinger approved.

In other words, Ambassador Hill explained, Kissinger gave the Argentines the green light.

That's a damning statement: a US ambassador saying a secretary of state had egged on a repressive regime that was engaged in a killing spree.

In August 1976, according to the new memo, Hill discussed "the matter personally with Kissinger, on the way back to Washington from a Bohemian Grove meeting in San Francisco." Kissinger, Hill told Derian, confirmed the Guzzetti conversation and informed Hill that he wanted Argentina "to finish its terrorist problem before year end." Kissinger was concerned about new human rights laws passed by the Congress requiring the White House to certify a government was not violating human rights before providing US aid. He was hoping the Argentine generals could wrap up their murderous eradication of the left before the law took effect.

More:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/01/new-memo-kissinger-gave-green-light-argentina-dirty-war

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So much from this time was ignored, so the right-wing could use all the space to revile, mock Jimmy Carter concerning everything he did, or attempted to do.

Just the little I heard told me Pat Derian had been a very busy State Department employee, working for the GOOD side of diplomacy, rather than what we've seen from the fascist element which seems to have run away with the State Department altogether.

There is still far more to be learned from records and witnesses regarding what happened to allow these monsters to seize total control of their country, and have the entire U.S. sitting like the fool on the hill, laughing at butterflies, while the monsters were hard at work torturing, and throwing political prisoners out of airplanes into the ocean, and the rivers of Argentina, where people standing on the banks could see them floating around. That move, in itself, was another aspect of the terror campaign which paid off big time when the citizens realized what was happening and were even further encouraged to try to dig the biggest hole they could find and disappear, politically, to keep the government from doing the same to them.

That's what is called REAL TERRORISM, done up in a BIG way.

Thanks for that good dose of reality.
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