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PoliticAverse

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1. If you consent to have sex with someone provided they use a condom and they don't
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:43 AM
Mar 2015

use the condom is it consensual sex?

If you consent to have sex with someone provided they use a condom and they don't PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #1
I think so, yes. Bonobo Mar 2015 #2
It may not meet the strict definition of rape, however, its is, without a doubt, sexual assault. Veilex Mar 2015 #5
If wrapping it is a condition for consent then yes, it is. PeteSelman Mar 2015 #3
So logically then, it would follow that other conditions not being met would also make it "rape" Bonobo Mar 2015 #4
"Would breaking those conditions make it "rape"?" - Those conditions are absurd and unrealistic. Veilex Mar 2015 #6
By that logic a woman claiming to be on BC duplicitously is "tantamount to rape" Major Nikon Mar 2015 #7
I happen to be of the opinion that a women lieing to a man about being on the pill and coexing him.. Veilex Mar 2015 #9
Not having sex at all is also a choice which hasn't been deprived in this scenario Major Nikon Mar 2015 #14
"Not having sex at all is also a choice" - I kinda just said that. Veilex Mar 2015 #16
I'm not creating a false equivalency, I'm pointing out one Major Nikon Mar 2015 #17
Your completely missing the point. Veilex Mar 2015 #18
Because I don't agree with your false assertion, doesn't mean I'm missing your point Major Nikon Mar 2015 #19
That you agree or not is irrelevent. Veilex Mar 2015 #20
Non-sequitur Major Nikon Mar 2015 #21
No, that's not a non-sequiter. You're splitting hairs. Veilex Mar 2015 #22
Just one sexual assault statute that mentions codom use is fine Major Nikon Mar 2015 #23
"mentions codom use" - You've added artificial requirements. Veilex Mar 2015 #25
You stole my line! Major Nikon Mar 2015 #28
"If two people agree to have sex, then it's not rape." - except that your ignoring the precondition. Veilex Mar 2015 #31
... Major Nikon Mar 2015 #36
The op isn't about the pill. Veilex Mar 2015 #38
It's the exact same standard Major Nikon Mar 2015 #39
You're on the losing end of an argument so you distract away from it and... Veilex Mar 2015 #43
Danth's Law applies well here Major Nikon Mar 2015 #47
retroactive consent lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #40
Actually... Veilex Mar 2015 #42
Getting arrested and being put in jail is not "legal jurisprudence" Major Nikon Mar 2015 #44
I don't think so. Veilex Mar 2015 #46
Your entire argument is nothing but a double standard Major Nikon Mar 2015 #48
Do you have a case citation for the one case that resulted in jail JimDandy Mar 2015 #51
"Do you have a case citation for the one case" - I do not. Veilex Mar 2015 #52
There are potential consequences occurring to both parties, but it ain't assault. Eleanors38 Mar 2015 #66
Condoms protect against AIDS and other STDs, birth control pills do not. They're not equivalent. n/t prayin4rain Mar 2015 #60
Which was never the point Major Nikon Mar 2015 #61
Oh, I thought it had already been determined that framing it as a simple prayin4rain Mar 2015 #62
Is "I'm on the pill! Honest!" Rape? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #8
Nothing about "I'm on the pill! Honest!" stops you from using a condom. Veilex Mar 2015 #10
unless youre in a commited relationship and havent been using them at her request b/c she's Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #11
In that scenario, there are bigger things at issue. Namely issues of trust between the two of you. Veilex Mar 2015 #12
she wanted to get married and thought this was the way to go about it, i guess Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #13
Some women are in love with the idea of being in love and/or having kids. Veilex Mar 2015 #15
A reversible male contraceptive is way overdue. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #33
"A reversible male contraceptive is way overdue." - Totally! Veilex Mar 2015 #35
All of the major research on the topic is happening in other countries (of course) lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #41
"All of the major research on the topic is happening in other countries " Veilex Mar 2015 #45
Somthing else I've noticed with the notion of the male BC pill... Veilex Mar 2015 #57
Exactly. I am convinced that this is the main stumbling block. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #58
Yeah...given the option, I'm pretty sure a heck of alot of men would use it. Veilex Mar 2015 #59
What an awful misogynistic comment: JimDandy Mar 2015 #53
"Let me educate you" - No, allow me to educate you, ma'am... Veilex Mar 2015 #54
Your comment is very clear JimDandy Mar 2015 #55
Riiiight... enjoy your own confirmation bias. Veilex Mar 2015 #56
You will likely not get an answer to the question. Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #24
That implies sex has value Major Nikon Mar 2015 #26
As I understand it, petty theft. Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #27
I would not be surprised at all if duplicitously claiming to use BC has been interpreted as a crime Major Nikon Mar 2015 #29
Arguably, unplanned pregnancy does have a cost. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #30
Yes, consequences tend to have costs associated Major Nikon Mar 2015 #32
The purpose of condoms and birth control are to mitigate risk. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #34
True Major Nikon Mar 2015 #37
No, I think that it is a crime, or at least a law that should exist ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2015 #49
Indeed Veilex Mar 2015 #50
How do you envision... tonedevil Mar 2015 #63
If either party objects to sex and sex procedes, it's rape Major Nikon Mar 2015 #64
Rather simple, isn't it. nt Bonobo Mar 2015 #65
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